Channel Islands Harbor Visioning

00:02 good evening
00:04 i have met many of you but for those of
00:06 you who do not know me
00:07 i'm mark sandoval harbor director for
00:10 the ventura county channel
00:12 channel islands harbor i thank you for
00:15 taking the time to join us this evening
00:17 we have nearly 600 registered tonight
00:19 and i am very heartened to see this
00:21 level
00:22 of interest in the development of the
00:23 channel islands harbor
00:25 it is very important that we plan and
00:27 proceed with harbor development which is
00:29 widely supported and creates an exciting
00:32 vibrant harbor
00:33 which meets the financial objectives of
00:35 the county and the city of oxnard
00:39 so how do we get here the harbor was
00:41 created in the mid-1960s as a county
00:43 property
00:45 it was annexed to the city of oxnard in
00:47 1963
00:49 and part of that annexation agreement
00:51 included a stipulation that the county
00:54 would continue to direct
00:55 and oversee the development of the
00:57 harbor
00:58 at the outset the county made a decision
01:01 that the harbor must be
01:02 operated as an enterprise which means
01:04 that the costs associated with operating
01:06 and maintaining the harbor
01:08 must come solely from the revenues
01:10 generated by the harbor
01:12 with no county general fund subsidy
01:15 this is a very important mandate as we
01:17 proceed with visioning and planning for
01:19 harbor development
01:21 in order to accomplish this the county
01:23 decided to develop the harbor through
01:25 long-term ground leases
01:27 utilizing private developers to build in
01:30 and around the harbor
01:31 a strategy called pay as you go by the
01:34 first harbor director tom bulk
01:37 but for decades this strategy was
01:38 successful as the harbor was developed
01:40 with marinas
01:42 hotels residential complexes and a
01:45 myriad of marine related and visitor
01:47 serving retail and commercial
01:49 in the early 2000s the harbor reached a
01:52 point where the initial development was
01:54 starting to age
01:55 and competing regional development led
01:58 to the decline of the popularity of the
02:00 harbor
02:01 a number of the lessees simply walked
02:03 away from their releases
02:04 including those operating the casa
02:06 serena hotel
02:08 fisherman's wharf and the whale's tail
02:10 restaurant
02:11 the process utilized by the harvard
02:14 department for development and
02:15 redevelopment
02:16 which as i indicated to work for decades
02:19 included initial project planning
02:21 and then the identification of
02:23 developers for development
02:25 and then public outreach to obtain other
02:28 agency and public input
02:31 next slide please in 2015
02:36 as a proposed fisherman's wharf project
02:38 was moving through the process
02:40 a group of residents recommended a new
02:42 development planning process
02:44 which included upfront public visioning
02:46 for harbor development
02:48 before a developer was identified and
02:50 the development was designed
02:53 now this flow chart that you're looking
02:54 at was developed by werner keller and
02:56 lorraine ephras
02:57 and it illustrates the first part of the
03:00 process
03:01 and as you can see visioning is right in
03:02 the center of it
03:04 in 2019 we adopted this new process
03:07 which brings us here tonight
03:09 now we currently have a number of harbor
03:11 parcels which are either
03:13 undeveloped or under short-term leases
03:15 for which new development needs to be
03:17 considered
03:19 these parcels are the subject of this
03:21 visioning you will see tonight
03:23 next slide please
03:26 now in line with the visioning component
03:28 of our new harbor planning and
03:30 development process we began visioning
03:32 for new harbor development last june
03:34 since the process is designed to be
03:36 inclusive it seemed important to develop
03:38 a
03:39 diverse steering committee which we did
03:41 the steering committee includes one
03:43 county supervisor
03:44 initially it was kelly long who is very
03:47 active in the harbor including rowing
03:49 and this year it's now matt levier who
03:52 has shown great interest in the harbor
03:54 and is excited to be part of this
03:55 process
03:57 representing the city of oxnard is
03:59 ashley golden the assistant city manager
04:02 steve kenney is the executive director
04:04 of the channel islands harbor lessee
04:06 association
04:07 representing harbor businesses andre
04:10 keller
04:10 is a chair of the channel islands
04:11 neighborhood council and has been
04:13 extremely engaged in providing
04:15 out-of-the-box ideas for the harbor
04:18 rene iu represents the harbor beach
04:20 community alliance
04:22 a large group of residents who have been
04:24 closely engaged with harbor development
04:26 and who are very passionate about seeing
04:28 the harbor developed in the right manner
04:31 frank laza is a resident and harbor
04:33 business owner
04:34 christina brewer is a silver strand
04:36 beach resident and
04:37 is on the board of the channel islands
04:39 beach community district
04:41 tom peterson is a harbor resident
04:43 business owner
04:44 and one of the most active captains in
04:46 and around the harbor
04:48 bernard coomer and carol taylor are
04:49 residents who have brought passion and a
04:51 variety of skills to the process
04:53 marilyn miller is the harvard department
04:55 director of planning and development
04:57 and myself round out the steering
04:59 committee
05:01 i want to publicly thank these
05:02 individuals for all the work that they
05:04 have put in but more importantly for the
05:06 ideas and passion they have brought to
05:07 the process
05:09 we have developed a mission statement
05:12 which is the channel islands harbor
05:13 visioning committee
05:15 aided by a professional urban planning
05:17 and economic development team
05:19 and extensive public input will create a
05:22 master vision plan which will provide
05:24 the framework for development in the
05:25 harbor for the next few decades
05:27 next slide in an effort to provide
05:31 professional expertise and overall
05:33 management of the visioning process we
05:35 hired a multi-disciplined consulting
05:37 team
05:38 led by dave sargent of sergeant town
05:40 planning which provides urban planning
05:42 and design
05:43 susan hardin of circle point to provide
05:45 public outreach
05:47 greensfelder commercial real estate to
05:49 provide retail strategy
05:51 and lisa wise consulting to provide
05:53 economic and coastal policy direction
05:56 before i turn it over to the consulting
05:58 team for the presentation
05:59 i want to again thank you for
06:00 participating in this essential
06:02 component of the visioning process
06:04 the channel islands harbor is a
06:06 significant part of ventura county
06:08 and it is very important to hear from a
06:10 wide range of county residents
06:12 as to how and what we should develop in
06:14 the harbor
06:15 so with that i turned it over to susan
06:17 harden to continue with the presentation
06:21 great thanks mark and good evening
06:22 everybody i just want to give you a
06:24 sense of what to expect in the workshop
06:26 this evening
06:27 so we'll start with just a short
06:28 introduction and give you a sense of
06:30 what what has happened
06:31 to date where we are now and a little
06:33 bit of what we've heard and we'll take
06:35 some time to do a bit of regional local
06:37 and economic
06:38 setting kind of setting the tone and
06:40 what the economic conditions are in the
06:41 area
06:42 but the bulk of the evening will be
06:44 spent really going through those
06:46 opportunity sites and what public realm
06:48 improvements can be made
06:49 so spending the time really good delving
06:51 into what are those concepts and
06:52 possibilities for the harbor
06:54 um we'll take a few minutes at the end
06:56 to let you know what the next steps are
06:58 as well
06:59 what we'll do in lieu of being able to
07:01 be face to face and have a lot of
07:02 interaction and discussion
07:04 we're doing this virtually of course but
07:07 we do want to make it as interactive as
07:08 possible
07:10 so throughout the presentation we'll be
07:11 taking some time to pause
07:13 and doing a poll an online poll asking
07:16 questions here and there to get a sense
07:18 from
07:19 the more than 300 people that are
07:21 already on in tonight's workshop we have
07:23 over 500 i think
07:25 signed up so we're going to get a good
07:27 amount of participation so we'll be
07:28 doing those polling questions throughout
07:30 and we'll also be addressing questions
07:32 as we go through the evening as well so
07:34 you'll see a q
07:35 a box either at the bottom or the top of
07:38 your screen depending on what kind of
07:39 device you're using
07:40 and we welcome and encourage you to pose
07:42 a question or a comment at any time
07:45 given the number of participants that we
07:47 have it's not likely that we'll be able
07:48 to answer every question or some
07:50 questions may be a little more complex
07:52 than we can answer
07:53 in a short workshop but we will be
07:55 posting all the questions and answers or
07:58 grouping those into an faq a frequently
08:00 asked questions document
08:02 and posting that to the work or to the
08:03 website in addition the workshop is
08:06 being recorded
08:07 and that will be posted to the website
08:09 as well along with the polling questions
08:11 that are being asked of you this evening
08:13 those will be posted on the site so that
08:16 others can partake in that same poll
08:21 so mark alluded to the the so we are in
08:23 the visioning process and for the last
08:24 several months that has been what the
08:26 team has been up to
08:27 i'm starting with really delving in and
08:29 exploring the site and understanding all
08:31 the nuances in the lay of the land
08:33 the online survey that went out and i'll
08:35 summarize that in just a minute
08:37 just the great guidance by the steering
08:39 committee regular
08:40 regular emails lots and lots of
08:42 participation there along with
08:44 meetings of individual stakeholders
08:46 throughout the process
08:47 which is bringing us to the workshop
08:49 here today where we're excited to share
08:51 with you some preliminary concepts and
08:53 ideas
08:54 for the harbor after today it doesn't
08:57 end
08:57 and we'll be further vetting out the
08:59 vision concepts and
09:00 doing a little more specification to
09:02 them and pulling together
09:04 a vision plan that can be adopted it's
09:06 not a
09:07 project plan but it is a vision and that
09:09 guidance after that vision plan is
09:11 adopted there's still more work to do to
09:13 implement that vision and there'll be
09:14 further planning
09:15 outreach and development that'll occur
09:17 at that time
09:20 as i mentioned stakeholder interviews
09:22 were really important and helped to
09:24 really influence what the concepts are
09:26 that you'll be seeing this evening
09:28 and some of those stakeholders are
09:29 listed there the different groups some
09:31 developers organizations
09:33 lots of great input from these
09:34 organizations and individuals
09:38 and i also noted the survey and we had a
09:40 great response to the survey nearly 1900
09:43 responses to the survey
09:45 um the actual all of the results are
09:47 posted on the website so if you want to
09:48 dig in and really read through the
09:49 responses to each question and welcome
09:51 you and encourage you to do that
09:53 um but just a quick summary of some of
09:54 those questions when asked how often do
09:57 you visit
09:58 35 percent of respondents live here at
10:00 the harbor
10:01 but still over 50 percent are frequent
10:04 visitors to the harbor as well
10:06 how often or how do you get to the
10:08 harbor not surprisingly it's mostly car
10:11 the potential improvements that we'll be
10:12 sharing tonight hopefully you'll see
10:14 definitely an increase in walking and
10:15 biking access as well
10:17 when asked people what are their
10:18 favorite hobby or favorite activities or
10:20 experiences at the harbor
10:22 the top by far was just walking around
10:25 and spending and biking through the
10:26 harbor area
10:27 along with dining and of course farmers
10:29 market and other events was also a top
10:31 top vo getter too
10:36 we also asked a question about what are
10:37 some of the key challenges and the top
10:39 five responses are listed here on the
10:41 screen
10:42 not enough to do was the top along with
10:44 um
10:45 just farm not too far behind inadequate
10:47 maintenance and maybe that people don't
10:49 know
10:49 enough about the harbor and what it has
10:51 to offer
10:53 and then we also asked an open-ended
10:55 question what what other features what
10:57 other things would you like to see
10:59 in the harbor and you can see some of
11:00 those key themes listed
11:02 at the bullets below so people wanting
11:05 to see more restaurants and bars and
11:06 restaurants and entertainment
11:08 lots of different ways people would like
11:10 to see more public space whether it's
11:11 event space or park spaces
11:14 opportunities for hotels docking areas
11:17 and even
11:17 more bike and pedestrian pathways
11:22 so that's just a little sentence of that
11:24 survey and some of what we've heard so
11:25 far and again all this information has
11:27 influenced
11:28 and what we'll be sharing with you
11:29 tonight but before i turn it over to the
11:32 design team i'm
11:33 just going to do a couple of quick polls
11:35 and this the purpose is twofold one is
11:37 just to get a sense of who's here this
11:39 evening but also just to give you
11:41 some experience and a taste of what it's
11:42 like to do these online polls
11:45 so this first question is just which of
11:46 the following best describes you
11:49 and we have the choices listed there on
11:51 the screen
11:52 and you'll also see an elect like a
11:54 polling um
11:56 box pop-up as well and that one is where
11:58 we want you to actually click your
11:59 response so you can look at the one on
12:01 the screen
12:01 or the slide but the one that we want to
12:04 respond to
12:05 is that box and you can actually click
12:06 on that and move it around a little bit
12:08 as well so if it's blocking
12:10 your view later on of pictures that are
12:12 on the screen you can move that
12:14 and for this one you can check any of
12:16 those that apply because you may live
12:17 work recreate all in this in the same in
12:21 the harbor area so
12:22 we have right now about 315
12:26 people that are here um so we'll see how
12:29 many we
12:29 write about 250 that have responded to
12:31 this question so far so we'll watch
12:33 those numbers go up
12:34 and then we will highlight the responses
12:38 on the screen if you're having any
12:40 trouble
12:41 we can put a note in the q a we'll see
12:43 if we can help you out but also if you
12:45 just
12:45 later on you can even answer the
12:46 question in the in the q a if you are
12:48 unable to get the poll launched or as i
12:51 mentioned we'll also have
12:53 these polling questions on the website
12:55 so you can respond to them
12:56 there as well so we're getting close to
13:00 our
13:01 we have about 90 percent of people that
13:02 have responded
13:04 so um let's go ahead and end that poll
13:06 andrew
13:09 and then we will share the results and
13:11 we've got a lot of folks here that live
13:12 in the harbor so about 75
13:15 of the people that are on the call
13:17 tonight
13:18 live in the harbor with a quite a amount
13:20 fifty percent or more that um
13:22 recreate in the harbor as well so we'll
13:24 be saving all these results and we'll
13:26 have a
13:27 summary report from tonight's workshop
13:28 and all these will be in there as well
13:32 so quick question the second poll
13:36 um that we'll ask before we turn it over
13:37 to the design team to david sargent
13:42 let's go ahead and we can stop sharing
13:44 and we'll go to the next slide
13:52 next slide david if you want to go to
13:54 the next slide
13:58 do we lose our lose david no no we lost
14:01 the ability to advance for somehow
14:05 okay well we're working that out let's
14:07 um andrew you can probably launch the
14:09 other poll
14:10 and this is just a question of did you
14:12 take that first harbor visioning survey
14:14 and i see a couple notes in the q
14:16 a about people people that maybe didn't
14:19 receive that
14:20 opportunity to take that survey so we'll
14:22 definitely be interested in hearing some
14:23 of your
14:24 responses on what you see hopefully some
14:26 of the responses that we did get
14:29 are in line with some of your thinking
14:30 there is as i mentioned in the summary
14:32 of all of those
14:33 nearly 1900 responses that we did get um
14:36 so encourage you to take a look at those
14:38 and
14:39 we're still taking input so there's an
14:41 email address that's associated
14:43 with this project so you can take a look
14:45 at that survey and if you have some
14:46 other ideas we would love to hear that
14:48 too
14:49 so did you take the first survey
14:52 which it's actually great to see if
14:54 people that are on the in the workshop
14:56 tonight that maybe didn't take that
14:57 survey because this is another
14:58 opportunity for you to weigh
15:00 in on the concepts
15:04 so we've got close to a little over 90
15:06 right now we'll give another five
15:10 seconds
15:12 all right andrew so we'll share those
15:16 results
15:16 so about 46 people took the survey um
15:20 40 did not and there's some that aren't
15:22 sure and i can
15:23 totally imagine or understand that
15:25 because in today's date with all of the
15:27 various online activities that are going
15:29 on it's hard to remember what you did
15:30 and didn't take right and what
15:32 what it was for and what it wasn't for
15:33 so um it's great to have all of those
15:35 people that did take the survey
15:36 hopefully you'll see your ideas
15:38 represented
15:39 and if you didn't take the survey we
15:40 definitely want your input this evening
15:42 and would love to hear more about what
15:43 your thoughts are and the concepts that
15:45 will be shared tonight
15:46 and so with that i will turn it over to
15:48 david
15:52 thank you very much susan i hope the
15:54 advanced button
15:58 will work but
16:01 something is i've never seen something
16:04 like this happen before excuse me just a
16:06 minute
16:07 we've rehearsed this a hundred times
16:13 well i think i may know what it is
16:20 okay
16:23 okay so thank you very much uh
16:26 so the channel islands harbor as i'm
16:28 sure you know is at the
16:30 south end of victoria avenue at the
16:33 water's edge
16:34 between the port between the port winnie
16:37 navy base
16:38 and the oxnard beach neighborhoods
16:42 within the 10 mile trade area right
16:44 radius mark
16:45 mentioned that it's important that the
16:47 harbor be self-supporting so the
16:49 main trade area where visitors come from
16:51 the most often is about 10 miles
16:54 the harbor is about 15 minutes off the
16:58 101 freeway which is a challenge in
17:00 terms of attracting customers and
17:02 visitors
17:03 it's adjacent to the puerto vaniemi the
17:06 new newer
17:07 seabridge development other destinations
17:11 and attractions that are nearby include
17:14 camarillo outlets within this straight
17:16 area downtown oxnard the collection
17:18 ventura harbor downtown ventura
17:22 and within a 30 mile radius if if people
17:25 choose to come visit
17:27 the harbor other destinations they may
17:29 enjoy
17:30 would be the reagan library some of the
17:33 agricultural
17:34 uh sites that can be seen out in the
17:36 santa paula area ohio carpinteria santa
17:39 barbara
17:40 so that it's really the middle
17:43 of a lot that's going on uh
17:47 if you zoom out there's a number of
17:49 airports
17:50 obviously small
17:53 private aviation airports nearby and
17:56 then venture and then
17:57 santa barbara burbank and lax farther
17:59 away
18:00 and very interestingly for those who
18:03 choose to come to the coast to cool off
18:05 from the santa clarita area the antelope
18:07 valley and other inland
18:09 areas you can come right down 126 and
18:11 down
18:12 victoria avenue and there you are at the
18:14 harbor and with
18:15 uh direct access to the channel islands
18:18 national park and
18:20 catalina so it's
18:23 on the edge of the local the
18:26 the everyday shopping trade area it's
18:30 not at the center of it it's on the edge
18:32 which is a bit of a challenge in terms
18:34 of attracting the patronage that
18:36 is needed to keep the help keep the
18:38 place self-supporting
18:40 and as mark mentioned there's quite a
18:42 few
18:43 new destinations that people can go to
18:46 dine
18:47 shop walk around enjoy themselves that
18:50 have popped up
18:51 since the harbor was developed in the
18:53 60s that have been taking away
18:55 customers the good news is that if
18:59 the if the harbor becomes a desirable
19:02 place for people to spend a weekend or a
19:04 week or
19:05 vacation in the summer the these other
19:09 competing locations are potentially
19:11 locations that visitors would find
19:14 compelling to to also visit so that once
19:17 again
19:18 one could think of the harvard being not
19:20 so much on the edge of things
19:22 as in the middle of many things one of
19:24 the other challenges is although there's
19:26 some beautiful and
19:27 expensive homes along the beach area
19:30 many of them
19:31 are second homes or not occupied
19:34 full-time which
19:36 further challenges the harbor in terms
19:39 of
19:40 uh sales and and business so all the
19:43 more important that it attract people
19:44 from
19:45 a wider area so how do you do that
19:48 um it's clearly not a place that a
19:50 shopping center that people
19:52 go to for their everyday conveniences
19:54 are going to be
19:55 is going to be very practical so we're
19:57 focusing our
19:59 economic and retail consultants have
20:01 advised us
20:02 to think of this as a specialty or
20:04 experience retail or hospitality
20:07 location
20:08 where people are mostly buying goods and
20:10 services
20:12 that are emotionally driven and
20:14 discretionary
20:16 and you come here because you want to be
20:18 here not just because you had to buy
20:19 something
20:20 so the sense of place is very important
20:24 this location probably can only support
20:26 about four acres of these kinds of uses
20:28 in the near future but they got about 28
20:30 acres that they need to lease
20:33 so clearly it's important to have a
20:35 harbor related anchor use that the uses
20:38 be themed around
20:39 the harbor's main asset which is it's a
20:41 beautiful place on the water
20:43 and it's incredibly important to make it
20:46 a place that people want to come more
20:48 often
20:48 spend more time and the surveys that we
20:54 have received the results to say that
20:58 the things that people would value the
21:00 most here would be walking biking dining
21:03 farmers markets special events rowing
21:06 paddling boating
21:07 which are all the things that would in
21:10 in fact leverage the destination
21:12 quality of the harbor and provide the
21:15 basis for economic success
21:19 so however the economic feasibility in
21:22 this day and age with the competing
21:25 uh other attractions requires
21:27 diversification
21:29 clearly the core is retail food beverage
21:32 entertainment education
21:34 about the water and the channel islands
21:36 boating and all the fun
21:38 but they the the
21:42 harbor hasn't been drawing those as a
21:44 lot of vacant land and vacant buildings
21:46 would would tell you and there's not
21:48 enough of
21:50 a very unlikely that enough of those
21:52 uses could ever be attracted in the
21:53 foreseeable future to fill the harbor
21:56 with enough revenue and visitorship to
21:58 sustain it so we're going to need to
22:00 have a balanced
22:01 mix that includes some additional hotels
22:04 there's one hotel
22:05 that's on the way we'll show you that in
22:07 a bit and pro
22:09 very likely there need to be some
22:11 housing mixed in
22:12 in order to make it economically viable
22:16 and if more if some more people
22:19 live here or lodge here for periods of
22:22 time
22:22 that'll have the effect of increasing
22:26 the amount of patronage of the
22:28 businesses
22:30 per vehicle trip to the harbor in other
22:33 words the
22:33 cut the number of vehicle trips and
22:35 parking required
22:37 and congestion per thousand dollars
22:40 spent in the harbor would
22:41 start to go down so the harbor in its
22:45 existing condition
22:46 it's surrounded by some very wide
22:48 streets which
22:49 don't give you immediately the image of
22:53 that you've arrived at a really cool
22:56 waterfront destination however they are
23:00 a a lot of already publicly owned
23:03 real estate and facilities that
23:06 we are going to show you some concepts
23:09 of how these could be
23:11 rather simply refined and improved to be
23:15 more of the kind of walking biking fun
23:18 environment
23:19 folks have been saying they would like
23:21 clearly the water
23:23 is the most beautiful thing i mean that
23:25 was built as a public works project in
23:27 the early 60s and they did a fine job
23:29 of building the chant the water channels
23:32 themselves and the docks and the slips
23:35 and and the the environment on the water
23:38 is a lovely thing
23:40 the environment around the edge of the
23:41 water is is less
23:45 optimized at this point it's relatively
23:48 narrow sidewalks and
23:49 just not a very it's not a place that's
23:51 screaming you know come let's go see
23:53 what's here
23:54 it's nice to walk along them but it
23:56 isn't
23:57 competitive with all the other places
24:00 that are much nicer to go spend time
24:02 these days
24:02 so we're going to show you a bunch of
24:04 concepts for how to make it so
24:08 the main point the main way to make it
24:10 so so here's the whole harbor there's
24:11 the south harbor which is the
24:14 part of the harbor that the county
24:15 operates down
24:17 south of channel islands boulevard and
24:18 then the north harbor
24:20 is within the city of oxnard and it's
24:23 north of channel islands bridge
24:26 it was developed over the last 20 or so
24:29 years from
24:30 agricultural land for the most part to a
24:33 really vital mix
24:34 of a lot of housing and
24:38 beautiful shopping centers along
24:40 victoria avenue and
24:42 wooly road and there
24:45 are uh there are access gateways at
24:48 wooly road and along harbor
24:51 coming down from from ventura along
24:53 harbor coming down
24:54 from the freeway inventor on victoria
24:57 and coming from oxnard and port winnie
25:00 along channel islands
25:01 boulevard and
25:05 we would suggest that these be improved
25:09 for walking and biking to help
25:11 the people who live around here come
25:14 into the south harbor
25:16 uh with for in a more pleasant
25:19 and active and recreational fashion uh
25:22 rather than just driving all the time
25:24 there are existing systems of walkways
25:27 developed around the north harbor
25:29 uh connecting a bunch of the housing to
25:31 the commercial amenities over here and
25:34 some beautiful spaces
25:36 along the water's edge but those don't
25:39 connect at all to the south harbor
25:41 except unless you happen to have a boat
25:44 and so it's creating this kind of an
25:47 environment with
25:48 beautiful new facilities right along the
25:50 water's edge so
25:51 the south harbor needs to pull up its
25:53 socks and compete with that
25:55 we believe so to which end
25:58 as as in terms of access and
26:02 and wayfinding around the harbor the
26:04 first
26:05 place you the main entries to the harbor
26:07 at the intersection of channel islands
26:09 boulevard
26:10 and harbor boulevard and victoria avenue
26:12 and channel islands boulevard
26:14 we think it's very important that a
26:17 walkable bikeable
26:18 and more attractive face for the harbor
26:22 be developed around the edges on harbor
26:24 and channel islands in victoria
26:26 so just a quick inventory of the sites
26:29 mark was talking about this blue site on
26:31 the end of the peninsula
26:32 is already slated to be a nice hotel
26:34 we'll show you some pictures of it in a
26:36 sec
26:38 these dark pink pieces are parcels that
26:40 are
26:41 available now or very soon for lease
26:44 to new development so they offer a
26:47 near-term
26:48 very strong possibility
26:51 of creating much more significant
26:54 attraction
26:55 that would generate a lot more fun for
26:56 visitors and a lot more revenue for the
26:58 harbor
26:59 these lighter pink pieces are pieces
27:01 that have existing leases that go for a
27:04 while but
27:05 under the right circumstances it's
27:07 possible that some improvement
27:09 if if these dark pink parcels start to
27:12 improve a lot
27:13 there could be some reinvestment in the
27:15 light ones
27:17 the water's edge environment we're going
27:19 to show you we think it's terribly
27:21 important that
27:22 however these individual parcels
27:26 are developed it's very important they
27:28 be connected to one another so that if
27:30 someone visits one of them
27:32 they can walk or bike to the next one
27:33 rather than getting in their car and
27:35 driving around because as soon as they
27:36 get in their car
27:38 they might as they might just as well
27:39 decide well let's just go up and check
27:41 out ventura harbor
27:42 or go over to the camarillo outlets or
27:45 santa barbara
27:46 so you want to keep them biking and
27:47 walking and these promenades system
27:49 we're going to show you
27:51 is a terribly important piece of that as
27:53 is the potential
27:55 of a water taxi system so that you can
27:57 go directly from
27:58 parcel to parcel along the water which
28:01 is so much more beautiful than the land
28:03 side
28:04 so we're going to start now by showing
28:06 you a couple kinds
28:08 of concepts for a few of these key
28:10 parcels and at each point we're going to
28:12 stop and ask you a few questions
28:16 so the most the the
28:19 greatest opportunity and the most widely
28:21 discussed
28:22 debated and in some cases disagreed
28:25 about
28:25 is the fisherman's wharf site which is
28:28 at the intersection of channel islands
28:30 boulevard and victoria avenue
28:32 here at the north east corner of the
28:35 south harbor
28:36 and it was developed a long time ago
28:40 as a shopping center with these
28:43 wooden buildings that have sort of a
28:45 cape cod look to them
28:47 and over time the businesses not
28:50 not every business has faded toppers
28:53 pizza is doing very well but most of the
28:55 businesses have faded
28:57 and it's not and it's coming up for
28:59 release and
29:00 uh it needs a new it needs something new
29:03 here's what it looks like from the
29:04 street it looks pretty pretty nice these
29:07 are backs these are sort of dolled up
29:09 backs these are not fronts the fronts
29:11 are all facing into the parking lot
29:13 and it's things are not very busy these
29:15 days the water side though
29:17 is lovely the wharf after you know that
29:20 gives fisherman's wharf its name
29:22 is on the water you can see it very
29:25 clearly from channel islands bridge
29:26 we're going to show you
29:28 some ideas about how that could be
29:30 repurposed and renovated and become the
29:32 center point of something very different
29:35 so the kinds of uses that we've heard
29:38 from the public and very much so
29:40 from the steering committee that's just
29:42 full of good ideas in fact one of the
29:44 members of the steering committee made
29:45 this pretty sketch
29:46 is some kind of a public market we're
29:49 thinking that there's a possibility that
29:51 it could be a venue where the best of
29:54 the bounties of the sea this fresh
29:57 seafood coming out of the ocean
29:59 and the best of ventura county's
30:01 agriculture for which our county is so
30:03 famous
30:04 could be showcased and along with
30:08 local arts and crafts and really
30:11 these kinds of food halls are very
30:14 popular throughout and increasingly
30:16 popular
30:16 throughout the region and the nation
30:20 also then the environment along the
30:22 wharf where you can
30:24 dine outside you could rent boats you
30:26 could watch the fish come in
30:29 you can just enjoy the waterfront
30:32 atmosphere
30:33 and stroll and shop we think that
30:36 there's an important role to be played
30:39 on our
30:39 retail strategy advisor tells us that it
30:43 would be very important to have
30:44 some tie-ins with the channel islands
30:47 and
30:48 perhaps some educational facilities
30:50 there's already a small
30:51 touch aquarium there operated by oxnard
30:54 college
30:55 but perhaps an expanded visitor center
30:58 where people could learn about the
30:59 channel islands
31:00 maybe buy tickets to go out to the
31:03 islands
31:04 with island packers and then
31:07 some kind of mixed-use development where
31:10 there would be retail shops along the
31:12 water's edge perhaps some office spaces
31:14 perhaps a
31:16 boutique hotel uh and and
31:19 court a courtyard full of dining
31:22 activities and probably in order to make
31:25 the thing very profitable to help
31:28 pay for some of the much needed
31:30 improvements some housing could be
31:32 integrated whether it's upstairs from
31:34 some of the
31:36 retail uses we could be oriented toward
31:39 internal courtyards some of it could be
31:41 over shops looking out over the water
31:44 and there's an example in ventura harbor
31:47 that's just being completed now which is
31:49 called
31:49 portside actually my firm was involved
31:52 with master planning this we didn't
31:53 design it but
31:54 if the harbor in ventura was looking for
31:57 a mix
31:58 of waterfront shops and and housing to
32:02 generate the income they needed so this
32:04 project was
32:05 is has just about it's still under
32:08 construction
32:09 but it was pointed out to us by some of
32:11 the steering committees and as an
32:13 example of something
32:14 that could be part of the mix uh here
32:16 somewhere in the harbor
32:18 so we've made this little conceptual
32:20 design now this isn't
32:22 a project this is an illustration of
32:25 a possibility that we've made just based
32:27 on what we've heard people would like to
32:29 see and since we're designers
32:31 we've made some sketches of how that
32:32 might work so
32:34 a lot of open space along the along
32:38 a rebuilt and expanded wharf a broad
32:41 waterfront promenade
32:43 a small a small street that lets people
32:46 come in and
32:47 find parking and circulate and mo and
32:50 walk very pedestrian friendly little
32:52 shopping street
32:53 and perhaps a courtyard and then
32:56 probably up toward the corner it would
32:57 be filled with
32:59 the visitors serving commercial uses
33:01 maybe some boutique offices on upper
33:03 floors
33:04 some kind of a visitor center we would
33:06 hope then perhaps part of this
33:09 could be a boutique hotel maybe 100 or
33:12 150 rooms
33:14 looking out over the water and then very
33:17 likely
33:17 some apartments or condos or live work
33:20 units that would
33:22 help support the cost of building all of
33:26 these public serving facilities which
33:28 the
33:28 retail alone might not be able to pay
33:31 for and then
33:31 a lot of water recreation and access and
33:34 park and public restrooms and such
33:36 so the payoff would be in this over
33:38 these open spaces
33:39 could provide venues for
33:43 special special events up just get every
33:46 day sort of gathering dining outdoors
33:49 uh something sort of an ad could be sort
33:51 of an annex to the existing farmers
33:54 market
33:54 as well as there could be outdoor
33:56 performance venues we're going to show
33:57 you an idea for that a little farther
33:59 down victoria
34:00 too here's a cross-section drawing we've
34:03 made
34:04 that shows how a market hall could be
34:07 built right up on channel islands
34:09 boulevard next to the lighthouse which
34:10 everybody wants to keep
34:12 some other retail or restaurant
34:14 buildings
34:15 and then if the if this building is
34:18 a hotel or condos or some offices on
34:21 upper floors
34:22 the ground floor would for sure be very
34:25 would
34:26 for sure be programmed with shops and
34:28 restaurants
34:29 so that there were lively active fun
34:31 uses
34:32 all adjacent to all of these public open
34:35 spaces
34:36 along the water's edge perhaps a hotel
34:38 might be up here in housing over there
34:40 you might have a situation where there's
34:42 some parking buried in here in a
34:44 structured way
34:45 or it could be that there's just surface
34:47 parking over there
34:48 if except surface parking doesn't
34:50 generate revenue so that might not
34:53 be feasible but you know what we'll find
34:55 out over time
34:57 one thing important to point out in some
34:59 earlier schemes that have been shown for
35:01 this site
35:02 the ground floors were all parking which
35:05 would reflect it so this isn't
35:07 this is another example of basically a
35:10 ground floor that has parking in it
35:11 isn't very much fun to walk along
35:14 so we wouldn't we're not suggesting that
35:16 that be
35:17 an option we're suggesting that shops
35:20 would be at least you know 30 40 50 feet
35:24 deep and parking would be in behind them
35:26 so it would be invisible
35:28 to the shoppers and pedestrians who are
35:30 enjoying the space
35:32 we've made a little model of of what
35:35 this
35:35 could be like if the market hall here is
35:37 on the right
35:38 and these uh the the hotel shops maybe
35:41 some
35:42 condos and apartments or offices could
35:45 be
35:45 on the south side of the plaza so the
35:48 the
35:48 these larger buildings would really
35:50 define this as a public space you could
35:52 have smaller
35:54 pavilions and restaurants and
35:57 vendors within the plaza looking out
35:59 over the water
36:01 and then when you're down in the plaza
36:03 it might look like this
36:04 it could be very full of life on a daily
36:07 basis and then really full of life for
36:09 special events
36:11 here's a look here's a view looking down
36:13 this little
36:14 this little access street that might be
36:16 coming in off channel islands boulevard
36:19 with the expanded wharf on the right
36:21 where you could have you could
36:22 perhaps buy fish right off the boat can
36:25 have a bicycle path
36:26 as well as a pedestrian path in this
36:29 little
36:30 little street so cars could come in and
36:32 see what's going on and then find a
36:33 parking space
36:35 and with this activity spilling out of
36:38 this
36:39 market hall into the plaza
36:42 a little bit every day and a lot on
36:44 special events
36:46 so susan would you like to please
36:51 ask folks what they think
36:55 sure so this is going to be our first um
36:57 poll regarding the
36:58 the vision concepts that are being
37:00 shared this evening
37:02 um and this one's specific to what david
37:04 was presenting on
37:05 fisherman's wharf so there's a lot of
37:07 different ideas that
37:08 um david went over and we just want to
37:10 kind of get a sense from
37:12 from you all on those that you think
37:14 could contribute to a successful
37:16 fisherman's wharf
37:17 and so what you see on the polling box
37:19 that just popped up is the same as what
37:20 you see
37:21 what would see on this the screen or i
37:23 mean on the slide there's just some
37:24 pictures there to kind of jog your
37:26 memory because it was a lot of
37:27 information
37:28 and here again you can answer more than
37:30 one you can check all that apply
37:32 anything that you think
37:33 could really make the fisherman's wharf
37:35 area
37:36 very successful in that you think that
37:38 would would work really well there
37:41 um while people are answering those
37:42 questions we've been answering lots or
37:44 answering that question we've been
37:45 answering lots of questions in the q a
37:48 um so encourage you at some point to to
37:50 dig into some of those but also want you
37:52 to be able to really hear what's being
37:53 shared as well so
37:54 take your time kind of going dipping
37:56 into those and we'll also make sure that
37:58 all of those will be
37:59 included into the summary report as well
38:01 but some of the things we're hearing a
38:03 lot of support for
38:04 a far for a farmer's market or for a
38:06 public market excuse me
38:08 entertainment venues um pedestrian
38:10 improvements plus some other ideas that
38:12 are coming in from individuals as well
38:14 so we'll be including all of those as
38:16 considerations um in the the report as
38:18 well
38:19 there's also some some concerns being
38:21 expressed on maybe the
38:22 level of intensity others maybe that
38:24 it's not intense enough so there's a
38:26 little bit of
38:26 of differing opinions there um lots of
38:29 questions and comments about the market
38:30 area and the study
38:32 and again all of those are being
38:33 answered as they as they come in to the
38:34 degree we can
38:35 um we'll try to keep up on all of those
38:37 and and we also just love taking your
38:39 comments and
38:40 any comments you want to make um
38:41 positive or negative we would love to
38:43 hear
38:44 we have about 75 percent who have
38:46 finished there's a lot of choices here
38:48 so letting people
38:49 think about how you want to respond to
38:51 this poll
38:52 and you can again um move that box
38:55 around a little bit if you want to see
38:56 some of those
38:57 pictures to jog your memory a little um
39:00 we'll
39:01 got about 82 percent of folks that have
39:05 responded
39:06 there were a number of questions about
39:07 the survey and how
39:09 how it went out and um we did try to do
39:11 as much as possible to get that survey
39:13 out into the hands of
39:15 of stakeholders residents and business
39:18 owners and
39:18 other stakeholders in the community um
39:21 nearly 1900 but of course that means we
39:23 missed people and there's certainly some
39:25 folks commenting on that in the q
39:27 a and we'll i think mark had made a
39:29 comment that we'll try to get
39:30 that survey we can make it live again
39:31 and let people more people respond it's
39:33 not a problem to open that back up and
39:35 get some more responses so
39:36 again we're still in the visioning phase
39:38 and we can add more
39:40 more content information
39:43 you've got about almost 90 which is
39:45 about what we're getting on the other
39:47 pulling questions and for those that may
39:48 be having trouble or just don't
39:50 feel like you want to answer these
39:51 questions right now um these questions
39:53 will be available
39:54 online and there is um what's not on the
39:57 screen is an other
39:59 question or cat or other response but
40:01 that is
40:03 allowed in that online polling box so
40:05 you can see that little box there
40:06 and we can't actually have you respond
40:08 to that live
40:10 as or to write your answer in but when
40:12 if you do reply to that
40:13 on the website you will be able to
40:14 answer that so let's
40:17 take about three more seconds here and
40:19 andrew will just go ahead
40:20 and end that poll i think that's about
40:23 as many as we're going to get
40:25 and we're sharing the results right now
40:27 so you can see
40:28 um the top vote getter there 92
40:31 of people really would like to see some
40:33 more restaurants and shops and maybe
40:35 even a small grocer
40:36 not surprising that's consistent with
40:38 what we've been hearing all along
40:40 over 50 percent for an improved worf for
40:42 the fishermen commercial fishermen
40:44 um in the 80s there you see for more
40:47 water recreation
40:48 and i did see some comments on that as
40:50 well so people wanting even more paddle
40:52 paddle boarding as well and those sorts
40:53 of things 88
40:55 for a public market and some significant
40:58 support there for a national or for an
41:00 anchor
41:00 such as a national park or learning
41:02 center um again we're seeing a lot of
41:03 comments in the
41:04 q a too on education and educational
41:06 centers
41:07 61 for performing arts and also some
41:10 support for boutique hotel
41:13 and a little less maybe for the offices
41:15 about 40 for
41:17 housing and then 6 percent for others
41:19 and we have a bunch of ideas that were
41:20 expressed here as well in the q a so
41:22 we'll make sure those are all
41:24 incorporated into this so thanks very
41:27 much for all those responses and again
41:29 that'll all be incorporated into the
41:30 report and we'll compare that with
41:32 some of the survey and some of the these
41:34 concepts and see what
41:36 makes most the most sense going forward
41:38 so david
41:40 thank you very much susan
41:43 no not this again
41:46 this is really getting boring
41:51 it doesn't like it when you stop huh it
41:54 just wants oh there we go
41:55 okay fine thank you okay so
41:59 the next piece we're going to look at is
42:00 just south so fisherman's wharf was up
42:02 here at the corner so now we've just
42:04 skipped
42:04 past the big public launch ramp
42:08 now we're down to this piece which is
42:10 currently a small
42:11 marina and it's on a short-term lease
42:14 that's coming up
42:15 and the committee once again had
42:19 what we think is a really cool idea for
42:22 what might
42:23 be possible here the parcel includes
42:26 a big open area a little building a
42:29 parking lot
42:30 and a bunch of water side space
42:34 as you can see and
42:38 the idea was that a
42:41 unique lodging facility i don't know how
42:44 many of you may be familiar with
42:46 the hard to find but worth the trouble
42:50 little waypoint facility in ventura
42:55 just off front street it's a trailer
42:59 hotel as it were with classic airstream
43:02 trailers and you can bring your own
43:04 trailer
43:04 so basically it's a it's sort of a
43:07 trailer
43:07 campground hotel facility
43:11 where you can have where there's commun
43:14 communal dining and
43:15 barbecuing and outdoor fireplace
43:17 facilities
43:18 and it's pretty cool up there and
43:20 imagine how cool it would be down here
43:22 on
43:22 the water there's an example of a
43:25 similar one
43:26 up in ojai where you can where you can
43:28 stay in a classic
43:29 trailer you could bring your own rv uh
43:32 in some cases
43:34 and have a very unique possibly bohemian
43:38 kind of a
43:39 of a stay that would be a
43:42 pretty good alternative to you know with
43:44 just a just a motel or a hotel
43:46 up on the freeway somewhere and down on
43:49 the water
43:50 there would be the possibility of having
43:52 an equivalent uh
43:54 facility where you could rent a
43:56 houseboat rather than a
43:57 house trailer for a day or a week
44:01 or a month so that it would be a very
44:03 unique lodging facility it would also be
44:06 a pretty low
44:07 capital investment operation
44:11 that could potentially be developed
44:13 fairly quickly
44:15 and provide a really unique facility
44:18 that
44:18 you don't have any competition for um
44:23 the plan so right you know so right
44:25 that's what it looks like from the air
44:26 but
44:27 it might the existing building might
44:29 stay as a little
44:31 as a little restroom facility and a
44:34 little snack bar
44:35 or other support facility within
44:37 trailers
44:38 in in on the land and then the boats
44:40 down below
44:42 and with a little
44:45 with a little water taxi stop at the end
44:49 and guest docs so that other friends and
44:52 relatives could stop by and visit you uh
44:56 and then the circuit then the the new
44:59 improved
45:00 uh promenade that we showed you a minute
45:02 ago could come right on along here in a
45:04 new improved
45:05 walk bike walkway bikeway that we'll
45:08 show you in a bit could run along the
45:10 edge of victoria
45:11 so the idea here is that victoria right
45:13 now victoria is kind of the back side of
45:15 boatyards
45:16 and we're looking at it as an
45:18 opportunity for victoria to be sort of a
45:20 new front entry
45:22 to a lot of these parcels susan
45:29 great so that was a little bit faster as
45:30 you see we get to the pole here the
45:32 fisherman's wharf had a lot more going
45:33 on there
45:34 so this this is a little smaller of an
45:36 area so same question here we want to
45:39 get a sense from you on what you've seen
45:42 for this
45:42 area south of the boat launch otherwise
45:45 some folks know this is
45:46 partial n1 but which of these different
45:50 uses that david talked about do you
45:52 think would be appropriate or could be
45:53 appropriate here
45:55 the very cool vintage trailer bnb a
45:58 house boat
45:59 a hostel a destination restaurant on the
46:03 dock
46:03 or even just visitor serving commercial
46:05 a mix of different kinds of commercial
46:07 and there is a little map to the left if
46:09 you're kind of not as familiar some of
46:10 you are
46:11 very familiar with the harbor and
46:13 everything all the little nuances but
46:14 others
46:15 need a little refresher of where we're
46:16 talking about so that little yellow box
46:19 represents the location
46:23 so we're seeing some some positive
46:24 comments in the q a
46:26 some folks asking about or talking
46:28 saying that they like some of these
46:29 ideas they're fun and they're
46:31 kind of exciting um
46:35 dave or mark did you have any questions
46:36 that you're seeing in the
46:38 q a that you might want to address or
46:40 res
46:42 can some common themes yeah there's a
46:44 couple that i think are important um the
46:45 first one is how the steering committee
46:47 was comprised i was developed and
46:49 quite frankly it was it was basically
46:51 the harvard apartment we
46:52 you know i knew that i wanted to have or
46:54 i knew that i wanted to have
46:57 some representation from the county and
46:58 city i would have preferred some
47:00 electeds
47:01 we did get a board member as i indicated
47:04 weren't able to get a city council
47:06 person
47:08 and one person asked why not uh
47:10 supervisor carmen ramirez well when we
47:12 started this way back in june and july
47:14 um you know uh now supervisor ramirez
47:17 was was still on the
47:18 on on city council and we couldn't get
47:21 an elected from the city but we did end
47:22 up with the assistant city manager and
47:25 and the city has shown uh you know
47:26 ultimate very very much support for the
47:29 process
47:29 we just weren't able to get an elected
47:32 we wanted to make sure that we had
47:33 uh business representation which we do
47:36 we wanted to make sure we had
47:38 um the resident representation which we
47:40 believe we did
47:41 um i mean we weren't going to send out
47:44 you know and
47:45 uh we weren't going to send out requests
47:47 for
47:48 for you know or an invitation to uh
47:52 to apply for the committee but what we
47:54 did do and i you know i've been here for
47:56 uh you know going on you know over two
47:58 and a half years so there's a number of
47:59 residents that i knew were very engaged
48:02 with the harbor
48:03 and and and i've been engaged with them
48:05 you know from day one
48:07 not only those that may support our
48:09 position but you know others that were
48:10 very much opposed to the county's
48:12 position
48:13 for many many years and we made sure we
48:14 got them on the committee as well so
48:16 that's how the committee was developed
48:18 and once we got uh members of the
48:20 committee
48:21 you know commit those committee members
48:22 actually recommended you know
48:24 others and so we did fill it out and i'm
48:26 very happy with the committee
48:28 we've gotten a lot of questions about
48:30 the survey and what we wanted to do was
48:32 early on have
48:34 a survey as to you know what what people
48:36 thought that they would like to see in
48:38 the harbor
48:38 and and we we tried to get the word out
48:42 we put it on next door we know next door
48:44 is a very
48:44 a very well used method of communication
48:48 obviously we have a mailing list you
48:50 know now that we had the committee
48:51 formed we use the committee as well
48:53 not only board members but you know but
48:56 but the city representation to get
48:58 to get the word out now if people didn't
49:01 know about it i apologize i mean we put
49:03 we put the word out virtually every way
49:05 we could um
49:07 and as i said next door we weren't
49:08 trying to hide the fact there was a
49:09 survey out there we wanted to get input
49:12 and and that's that's how it went out
49:13 and we you know we continuously tried to
49:15 get the word out
49:16 um all the committee did every committee
49:19 member was trying to get the word out on
49:20 the survey
49:21 so you know and then we did have a
49:23 number of uh of questions about the
49:25 survey and that's how it went out we got
49:26 nearly 2000 of them
49:29 but i think those two questions were
49:31 very important to answer live
49:33 great thanks mark there's also been a
49:35 couple questions about
49:36 how do we improve the the streets and
49:38 the connections and gateways
49:40 and hold tight because we will be
49:41 getting to all that and towards the end
49:43 of the presentation we're going to tie
49:45 it all together
49:45 david is with showing some gateway type
49:48 improvements and improvements to the
49:49 streets and sidewalk idea
49:50 or area so um here's the results for
49:54 this area south of the boat launch so
49:56 the highest rated was the destination
49:58 restaurant on the dock but everything
50:00 got a pretty high rating with the
50:02 exception of a hostel so not a
50:03 not a huge amount of res of support for
50:06 that but there is still clearly almost
50:08 20 percent
50:09 um the botels they're at 67 percent as
50:12 well so
50:12 the other almost everything else in the
50:14 60s so some great results there
50:17 all right david to the next site yeah
50:21 well
50:21 wish me luck i don't know why it
50:28 just doesn't like to go there we go okay
50:32 fine there you go
50:33 i'll just yell at it um so
50:36 the next piece is further south it's
50:39 comprised of a number of parcels this
50:41 one current has
50:42 the sport fishing operation which we
50:45 certainly anticipate
50:46 and and plan and hope will will remain
50:49 there may be some
50:50 additional capacity for activity within
50:53 that parcel there's
50:54 a boat storage uh area there which is up
50:57 for release
50:59 there's a bunch of water parcels here
51:01 which kind of like the botel side up
51:03 there has the possibility of
51:05 being you know refresh in terms of what
51:08 kinds of boats it can accommodate
51:10 possibly we might be able to eat into
51:13 the end of this boat yard to the north
51:15 if they find more efficient ways to
51:18 store boats or start
51:19 doing some dry stacking so there's a
51:21 potentially significant
51:23 piece of land there so certainly we
51:25 anticipate
51:26 the sport fit we hope that the sport
51:28 fishing operation will thrive and expand
51:31 and remain in either in its existing
51:33 structure a new improved structure with
51:35 perhaps more amenities
51:37 island packers as you probably know
51:39 already runs boats out of here to the
51:41 channel islands as well
51:42 as they do also out of ventura harbor
51:45 and there
51:46 we there's a chance that they would be
51:49 moving they might move to this site from
51:52 where they are now because
51:53 there will be some operational
51:55 advantages and we're hopeful
51:57 that they might expand their operations
52:00 actually but i was in a meeting this
52:01 afternoon my
52:03 news item popped up on my phone saying
52:05 that they are
52:06 back in operation after you know after
52:09 they're
52:09 shut down for the pandemic so that's
52:11 good news just a few hours ago
52:14 we hope that they would become an
52:16 increasingly
52:18 important presence here because the tide
52:20 of the channel islands is
52:22 one of the greatest assets obviously
52:24 that this harbor has
52:25 we hope that the funding can be raised
52:28 for the
52:29 replacement facility of the harbor
52:31 masters
52:32 headquarters here right next to the
52:34 coast guard with views directly out into
52:36 the mouth of the harbor
52:38 there's also the possibility here of
52:41 some kind of an
52:42 outdoor entertainment venue with a
52:46 possibility
52:47 of some kind of a performance space out
52:50 over the water with people sitting on
52:52 shore looking looking at musical or
52:55 dramatic performances
52:56 of some kind that could be a very unique
52:59 thing and one
53:00 reason to consider having it down here
53:02 rather than
53:04 up at fisherman's wharf or somewhere
53:07 farther north is that there's a lot of
53:10 parking that
53:11 is used in the daytime by the sport
53:13 fishing operation
53:14 and in the evening it would be unused so
53:17 that could create a lot of efficiencies
53:19 in terms being able to share all that
53:20 parking
53:21 with daytime and nighttime uses
53:26 and there's also the possibility that uh
53:29 small cruise ships might be able to come
53:32 in here the smaller
53:33 national geographic cruise ships might
53:36 be able to dock
53:38 in some of the and if some of the slips
53:40 were rebuilt here there's a possibility
53:42 that cruise ships might be able to come
53:44 in here bringing an additional stream of
53:46 visitors without
53:47 cars for the most part who could stay on
53:50 the ship
53:51 in harbor or in some of the lodging
53:54 facilities and provide an additional
53:56 customer stream coming from the ocean
53:58 rather than from the land
54:00 possibility we've had a conversation
54:02 with the port of winemi if the
54:04 if the logistics of them docking in this
54:07 harbor were
54:08 difficult possibly they might be able to
54:10 dock in the port of aeneimi
54:12 and then shuttle over on boats or
54:14 shuttle buses
54:15 there's also the possibility they might
54:17 just be able to drop anchor offshore
54:19 and bring visitors in in launches and
54:22 what that that map i showed you at the
54:24 beginning of all the different
54:26 venues that are within a 30 mile radius
54:28 could start to make the sort of package
54:31 that little cruise lines are looking for
54:33 where if they're going to put into port
54:35 they want a bunch of fun stuff for their
54:36 people to be able to get
54:38 to and that's why we were showing you
54:40 things like the reagan library and
54:44 and ojai and and of course oxnard
54:47 inventor and camarillo
54:49 as places that people could have fun if
54:51 they came in on a cruise ship so
54:53 right now you see there's just a lot of
54:55 parking areas here in these little
54:57 cul-de-sacs
54:58 we're thinking that you might be able to
55:00 reorganize some
55:02 new and improved buildings facing the
55:04 water with that same kind
55:06 of a nice little street and improved
55:07 promenade like we showed you at
55:09 fisherman's wharf
55:10 running a lot along the front and might
55:12 even be able to build a little
55:13 amphitheater in here
55:15 and then during the day the sport
55:16 fishing would use a lot of this parking
55:18 and at night it could fill up with
55:20 people coming to performances
55:22 here might run the uh walk whale
55:25 i'm dying to show you the promenades and
55:27 the walkways but i left it to the end
55:30 so that we get through these use things
55:32 first that's the fun part we were
55:34 leaving it for last
55:35 one of the fun parts so susan
55:42 great so um here we are to the area
55:44 north of the coast guard
55:46 again the question is the same um which
55:48 of the uses
55:49 and the ideas that david talked about do
55:51 you think would contribute to the
55:53 success of this area
55:54 and again we're not asking you to choose
55:56 only one we really want to just get a
55:58 sense of what of these different ideas
56:00 do you think could work here
56:02 because again it's a vision plan so
56:03 we're not laying out specifically what
56:05 has to happen here
56:07 but instead trying to elaborate on some
56:09 ideas
56:11 i'm definitely seeing still a lot of
56:12 comments and questions or ideas that are
56:14 generated in the q a about
56:16 maritime and and ocean learning and
56:20 education
56:21 and museums and that sort of thing so
56:23 people have a lot of support for those
56:24 ideas for sure
56:26 good that's what's going to make this
56:29 place really special and just
56:31 anchor it so firmly to the islands and
56:34 the ocean i mean that's
56:35 that's what you got to sell
56:38 and just a note too that we're up to 346
56:41 participants in this workshop and online
56:43 workshop which is really
56:45 terrific turnout so thanks to everyone
56:47 for giving up a little your time this
56:49 evening
56:50 and as people are responding to this
56:52 poll just a reminder in case anyone
56:54 came a little late um we will have the
56:56 copy of this presentation
56:58 and the same online polling questions
57:00 will be available on the website
57:02 for the project so if you know people
57:04 that weren't able to make it
57:05 definitely encourage them to check it
57:07 out and provide us with their input as
57:09 well
57:10 so we're getting there um getting close
57:14 to
57:15 almost 90 90 percent of respondents so
57:17 far
57:20 um again seeing some comments on the
57:21 public realm stuff and and david will
57:23 get to the
57:24 the ideas on the streets and sidewalks
57:26 and getting people around
57:31 and the house some ideas on how are the
57:33 support for the houseboat idea too so
57:35 there's some responses coming in on that
57:36 last section
57:38 um that's it's worth pointing out that
57:40 we're showing these different
57:41 alternative uses and we're tying them to
57:44 specific parcels but there's nothing
57:45 magic about exactly which of these
57:47 functions goes on which parcels
57:50 so yep some of these could move around
57:52 right if there's a lot of support for
57:55 certain ideas they could go
57:56 a bunch of different places i mean
57:59 there's a lot of options
58:01 we're not we're not trying to tell you
58:02 where everything should go
58:04 we're just illuminating the
58:06 possibilities
58:09 all right andrew let's go ahead and end
58:10 the poll um
58:12 so people really support that idea of
58:14 the expanded island packers location so
58:17 about 80 percent there
58:18 um new landing dock and sport landing in
58:21 docks
58:22 72 66 for that outdoor theater with a
58:26 floating stage a really fun idea
58:28 um and lots of support still in nearly
58:30 50 percent or over on
58:32 the other concepts as well so quite a
58:34 bit of support here for
58:36 most of these items so david let's move
58:39 to the next
58:40 site thank you susan so now we're going
58:43 to look at the peninsula point
58:45 so much of the peninsula is housing
58:47 that's going to stay there for a long
58:48 time but the point is an enormous
58:50 opportunity you've got the old older
58:52 hotel and the
58:53 former restaurants down here which i
58:56 remember
58:57 with with great pleasure visiting back
59:00 in the 80s when our kids were little but
59:03 there's a new hotel that's planned
59:05 for most of the end of the peninsula
59:07 here and it's really lovely
59:09 it's a hyatt house hotel that is planned
59:13 with a new a new entry a new entry plaza
59:17 at the end of peninsula road
59:20 and a four-story hotel with a bar
59:24 and and lounge looking out over the
59:26 water and a separate building with a
59:28 restaurant in it
59:29 and again the expanded improved
59:32 promenade
59:33 coming around the end uh we think it's
59:36 very lovely
59:37 we we have we had nothing to do with it
59:39 we're just complimenting the people who
59:41 have
59:41 designed it then there's a little so the
59:44 hotel would be here then there's this
59:46 little parcel over here which is loving
59:49 lovingly known as the remnant and it's
59:52 available
59:53 and it's really a strategically located
59:56 along the waterfront so we've
59:58 thought about what might go there so
60:01 here's where the hotel
60:02 here's how the hotel would be laid out
60:04 this is the remnant piece
60:06 so it could have it could be as simple
60:08 as just a little
60:09 lane that comes around here you could
60:11 have some kiosks
60:13 and uh vending
60:16 along the edge that might be
60:20 something as simple as a taco shack
60:23 could have bike rentals if the if
60:26 ships if large ships came in here and
60:29 this was a point of arrival
60:31 people could just land here and grab a
60:33 bike and start here
60:35 and explore the rest of the harbor
60:37 possibility of
60:38 little cafe right along the water's edge
60:41 another alternative that was mentioned
60:43 is the possibility of some
60:45 some some town houses or condos
60:48 that would have frontage right onto the
60:50 water
60:51 here's a couple ideas how they could
60:53 look they could look like these ones
60:56 these are actually up in river park
60:58 which which we had a lot to do with the
61:00 master plan for
61:01 a number of years ago or these uh more
61:04 modern ones that are actually in utah in
61:07 a very beautiful new town
61:09 but something like i mean sitting we
61:11 imagine the sitting on the decks of
61:13 those looking out over the water
61:14 could be pretty spectacular uh it's a
61:18 very small piece so there's not a lot of
61:20 options of what you could do with it so
61:22 some small retail or some small housing
61:24 uh seen seem like the main option
61:27 so susan great so now we want to ask
61:31 this similar question here about
61:32 peninsula points
61:34 we have a few more sites to go after
61:36 this and then we'll get into the
61:37 streets and sidewalks and some of the
61:39 the concepts there
61:40 but definitely want to focus in on
61:42 peninsula point so we're looking at
61:44 ideas or
61:45 uses like food trucks and food stands
61:48 plaza pocket parks
61:49 bike rental and townhouses and again
61:52 that little
61:53 key map is there and there's still
61:55 always the other category so if there
61:57 was a specific use that you heard david
61:58 talk about
61:59 earlier that you're envisioning
62:01 peninsula point and you really think
62:02 that could work here
62:04 um please feel free to to click that
62:06 other and
62:07 as i mentioned you can't type in your
62:08 response on the survey but you certainly
62:10 can add it into the q
62:11 a um and just say additional use or
62:14 however you want to characterize that
62:17 so let's see we're we're getting up
62:18 there um
62:23 so there's still a lot of the same ideas
62:25 coming in a lot of
62:26 some idea or love of the houseboats and
62:28 the botels um question about whether
62:30 those
62:31 that the botels and the houseboats and
62:33 the little
62:35 trailer park idea could be year-round or
62:38 are those considered only short-term
62:40 um could they how long would those be up
62:42 so there's some questions about that
62:43 david
62:45 we're we're really excited about that
62:47 possibility too
62:49 and it wasn't our idea so
62:52 yeah so i think the answer is it's not
62:54 intended to be a short term somebody
62:55 said wouldn't it only be around for a
62:57 month but no those are actually would be
62:59 businesses and
63:00 um semi-permanent or permanent locations
63:03 for those yeah um there's also some
63:04 questions about parking
63:05 and are we providing enough parking um
63:08 for all these different uses and so
63:10 that's a that's a fascinating question
63:13 and we're as we show you the plans that
63:15 were the
63:16 concepts we're suggesting for for the
63:18 walking and biking and
63:20 water taxi the idea would be that
63:24 people could arrive at the harbor and
63:25 park their car once and spend a half a
63:28 day or a day
63:29 or a weekend walking and biking around
63:31 which would drastically reduce the
63:33 number of parking spaces you would need
63:35 because
63:36 people wouldn't be driving and parking
63:38 and driving and parking and driving and
63:40 parking
63:41 but we had one of course enough parking
63:44 must be provided
63:44 right and again you know being a vision
63:47 a vision level plan we're not yeah
63:49 got to figure out what those that mix of
63:51 uses specifically would be and then you
63:52 develop those parking
63:54 then we figure out how much parking you
63:55 need and you have it
63:57 all right so andrew let's go ahead and
63:58 end this poll
64:00 um so plaza in parka park is 71 not far
64:04 behind
64:04 is bike rental i'm about 63 percent
64:07 there for food trucks and
64:08 31 for some townhouses along with 13
64:12 percent for
64:13 other let me just look at the q a real
64:16 quick and see if there's any
64:17 quick responses on other small off leash
64:20 dog park
64:21 um don't reduce any of the the green
64:24 spaces so
64:26 um and no fee parking so just a few
64:27 comments that came in on the other but
64:30 all right let's move on to the next the
64:32 next area
64:34 okay oh geez not again
64:39 there we go okay so now we're going to
64:41 look at the opportunity
64:42 so we've done that with the victoria
64:44 side and the peninsula now we're going
64:45 to look at a few parcels down the
64:47 down the harbor boulevard side and then
64:49 we're going to talk about the walkways
64:50 and bikeways and
64:52 and the the out the public realm so this
64:55 piece y3 is an incredibly
64:59 privileged piece of land that has very
65:02 little on it
65:02 it it's one of the pieces that projects
65:05 out into the harbor
65:06 and it and this parking parcel are both
65:10 available in the very near you know
65:12 pretty much now
65:14 uh offers will be accepted uh
65:17 and this has also the very interesting
65:20 characteristic of having this good-sized
65:22 water parcel in front of it that is not
65:25 currently developed where
65:27 it could be developed for small docks
65:30 or it could be developed for a larger
65:32 dock that might be able to accept
65:34 a super yachts you know big visiting
65:37 vessels that might tie up here
65:40 that would come in with people with you
65:42 know a lot of money and resources to
65:44 you know help change the trajectory of
65:47 the of the business here
65:50 um so the most obvious possibility for
65:54 well
65:54 one a possibility for this is some is
65:57 mixed use that could be
65:58 something like the possibilities we
66:01 showed you on fisherman's wharf
66:03 site where you could have shops along
66:06 the waterfront walkways
66:08 you could have some kind of court dining
66:11 court
66:11 outdoor space in the center with with
66:14 restaurants you could have
66:16 you there could it could include a
66:17 boutique hotel
66:19 um it could also include
66:22 some of some types of housing if that
66:25 would
66:26 create enough revenue to really support
66:31 the improvement of the area around it
66:34 another option another possibility that
66:37 has been mentioned by the
66:39 steering committee that we think is
66:40 fantastic and could tie in beautifully
66:42 with the public market idea
66:44 would be a culinary center a culinary
66:47 institute
66:48 that could become sort of a magnet of
66:50 healthy food
66:52 that could be really tied in beautifully
66:54 with it with the best of ventura
66:56 county's
66:56 seafood and agriculture and
67:00 create a culture of you know support a
67:02 culture of healthy food at the harbor
67:05 the possibility of a dock that's big
67:07 enough that large
67:08 boats could come in and tie up and start
67:11 to put
67:12 this little harbor on the map for the
67:14 larger boating community going up and
67:17 down the coast
67:18 and elevate its status to something more
67:21 comparable
67:22 to you know santa barbara newport or
67:24 some of the other
67:25 bigger more well-known harbors
67:28 and ports of coal
67:32 one so one possibility would be this
67:34 parking lot would just serve
67:36 one and two-story buildings here that
67:39 would have
67:39 shops and restaurants you can have some
67:41 nice courtyard spaces like we showed the
67:43 pictures of a minute ago perhaps this
67:45 l-shape
67:46 this c-shaped building here could be a
67:48 boutique hotel
67:50 with where and this is a south facing
67:52 edge so this
67:54 these courtyards could be full of sun
67:56 and
67:57 the promenade could come straight across
67:59 the face of these buildings
68:01 and then go on up toward up toward
68:05 channel islands boulevard and have a
68:07 beautiful promenade we're going to show
68:08 you the pictures in a minute around the
68:10 outside
68:11 and there's the possibility of something
68:14 a little bit like one of the buildings
68:16 we showed on the
68:17 fisherman's wharf site that could have
68:19 some more shops on the other side of
68:21 this little street and some housing
68:23 upstairs and perhaps some parking
68:25 uh inside the lower levels of this
68:27 building
68:29 and creating an if the bike and walk
68:32 whale on this side of
68:34 harbor boulevard and then one important
68:37 very important thing we're showing in
68:39 these diagrams is the idea
68:41 of these coming in looking and feeling
68:44 and acting like
68:45 small streets rather than turning in and
68:47 just
68:48 finding yourself in an enormous parking
68:50 lot and wondering where the buildings
68:51 are
68:53 so here is a cross-section drawing
68:56 showing
68:57 out of the water here and either a large
68:59 dock or smaller docks
69:01 and then some shops facing along the
69:04 water
69:05 perhaps some offices or even some
69:07 housing
69:08 or or lodging upstairs perhaps a hotel
69:11 here and some more shops up here along
69:13 this new little
69:14 loop street that might come in off
69:16 harbor boulevard
69:17 possibility of a building a little bit
69:20 like we illustrated on the other side
69:22 which might which would have shops also
69:24 in all the grant shops and restaurants
69:26 and all the ground level perhaps
69:28 hotel or condos upstairs and then
69:31 additional parking facilities
69:33 possibly underneath this plaza there's a
69:35 beautiful
69:36 project that some friends of ours
69:38 designed in manhattan beach which we've
69:40 actually had a couple pictures of in
69:42 here
69:42 that courtyard with a fireplace in it
69:44 it's a couple blocks off the pier in
69:46 manhattan beach and it has parking
69:48 underneath it just like this
69:51 and so just zoomed in on just to show
69:53 how the
69:54 promenade and courtyards could face out
69:57 to the water and then you could have
69:58 the new pier uh
70:02 at the end and perhaps a deck with a
70:04 little restaurant on it
70:06 so susan
70:10 great so here is the question for this
70:13 area
70:13 south of harbor landing some people know
70:15 it as x3
70:17 so we're looking at boutique offices
70:20 integrated waterfront living that idea
70:22 of a super yacht dock
70:24 culinary center boutique hotel and
70:27 visitor serving commercial
70:29 and while um folks are answering this
70:31 question um
70:32 david i'll throw out some of the ideas
70:35 that are coming through the
70:36 the q a um you mentioned water taxi
70:38 briefly and i know you're going to get
70:39 into that a little bit more but there's
70:41 definitely was
70:42 a number of people saying yes yes they
70:43 like the idea of a water taxi so when
70:45 you get to that you might want to
70:46 elaborate
70:47 some more every one of these
70:50 little every one of these new
70:52 developments that we're showing would
70:54 would certainly have at least one water
70:57 taxi stop
70:58 so that you could hop around amongst
71:00 these places just
71:01 freely um people quite a few or a number
71:04 of people saying they like that idea of
71:06 the culinary center in the chat here
71:09 there was some concern i've noticed
71:10 throughout some of the different
71:12 questions on what about just the boaters
71:14 and the boating community and what's
71:15 already happening
71:16 in the way the harbor is being used so
71:18 maybe you want to
71:19 address them some of those existing
71:21 users
71:23 so do you want to mention anything about
71:25 those existing existing boaters and how
71:27 they'll still have access
71:28 and or mark if you want to talk through
71:30 that yeah i'll take that i mean it would
71:32 pretty much we have marinas virtually
71:34 everywhere that a marina can go at this
71:36 point in time
71:37 um what we do have is x3 which is what
71:40 we
71:41 what dave just went through that little
71:43 strip in front of x3 where which is now
71:45 you know at the edge of the dirt
71:47 that is developable but there's not a
71:48 lot of space because it's got it can
71:50 only go out as far as the adjacent
71:51 marinas
71:52 but that is an area for development um
71:55 the other marinas are already developed
71:58 and and there have been
71:59 questions about you know you do have
72:00 slips that are that are aging
72:02 and and and there are two marinas that
72:04 are currently
72:05 uh very active and re rebuilding those
72:08 marinas
72:09 and there are two more that we've
72:10 already initiated conversations with for
72:12 rebuilds
72:13 um there's other some questions seem to
72:16 uh indicate that the boatyards would go
72:19 away well no the
72:20 the channel islands boatyard is going
72:22 nowhere and that's the big boatyard
72:25 on on victoria the small boat yard which
72:27 is anna kappa that's the n1
72:29 parcel that david indicated for possibly
72:31 the the trailer boat
72:33 or bed and breakfast um i don't i do not
72:36 see the need for two boat yards i think
72:38 that
72:38 having a boat yard in ventura harbor and
72:40 having one here kind of keeps them
72:41 honest
72:42 but there is a significant and will
72:44 continue to be a significant boat yard
72:46 so there will still be
72:48 services for boaters and the drops that
72:50 need uh
72:51 rebuilding are in the process of getting
72:53 rebuilt
72:54 yeah maybe maybe i should have mentioned
72:56 that right up front that none of this
72:58 would be displacing
72:59 or reducing or in any way eating into
73:02 the boating
73:04 activities and boating-related services
73:07 and and the idea would be to enhance
73:10 right the ability of provide a lot more
73:14 amenities
73:15 for folks who visit or live on boats
73:18 and to provide a much more
73:22 profitable environment for the
73:23 commercial fishing
73:25 business to bring their catch into and
73:28 to provide a lot more amenities for
73:29 folks who are going sport fishing are
73:31 already
73:32 going out to the island so none of the
73:34 existing water
73:36 water-based activities would be reduced
73:38 the idea would be to
73:40 to enhance them and increase them great
73:43 thank you
73:43 thanks for that so um andrew if you want
73:46 to go ahead and
73:47 end this poll and we'll take a look at
73:48 the results there um as i
73:50 noted already in the q and a the
73:52 comments the a lot of support for the
73:53 culinary center idea
73:55 um along with visitor serving commercial
73:58 next would be the boutique hotel
74:00 and there's some significant support
74:01 there about almost 43
74:03 for the super yacht dock um and about 40
74:07 for waterfront living opportunities a
74:09 little less for the offices um
74:11 and but there is a quite a bit there
74:13 then for the boutique hotel too so
74:15 10 on others so looking forward to
74:17 checking out more of the comments in the
74:19 q a or
74:20 also when um there is the email for this
74:22 project and
74:23 ability for you to take this poll again
74:25 on the website and actually be able to
74:27 write in some ideas
74:28 too so we'll move on to the next site
74:31 cool we're almost yeah we're we're
74:33 getting there and
74:37 this just
74:45 okay there we go geez okay so now the
74:48 marine emporium landing
74:50 is the most successful in in my personal
74:53 opinion
74:55 of the current uh and one of the newer
74:58 and very successful commercial
75:00 operations
75:01 uh at the harbor right now there's a
75:03 number of really good restaurants in
75:04 there
75:05 my wife and i used to go to the wales
75:07 tale and
75:08 port royal years ago and we still go to
75:11 these restaurants here
75:13 and uh it's very successful and nice
75:16 this
75:16 is the oldest building of the group as
75:19 is probably quite clear
75:21 and the lessee of this
75:24 site is in the process of planning uh
75:27 remodeling and expansion of this
75:29 building it might be
75:30 have the potential to more to serve
75:33 more the commercial fishing side of the
75:37 ledger
75:38 and uh we would certainly we would
75:40 certainly anticipate that the new
75:42 and enhanced promenade could come right
75:45 across the face here
75:46 creating sort of a new and improved
75:49 front
75:50 for this complex and the new and
75:52 improved promenade could go around the
75:54 outside as well
75:56 then jumping down to the south here's
75:59 the old whale's tail
76:00 site right now you've got the
76:04 you've got the museum uh you've got the
76:07 museum here on k2 and you've got the
76:09 boating center here right next to it
76:12 and sadly the whale's tail is no longer
76:14 there there's also a piece of there's
76:16 also a water parcel here that could have
76:18 different types of docks
76:20 or slips of perhaps visitor docks
76:25 and i fondly remember
76:29 sitting in the whale's tail looking out
76:31 at the water and having really good food
76:33 but it's uh restaurants aren't that
76:36 this is an old building and restaurants
76:38 just aren't that big anymore
76:40 so ideas about what might be done with
76:44 the existing building
76:45 i mean it could be replaced by another
76:47 building but
76:48 uh this sort of marine touch aquarium or
76:52 education center is certainly something
76:54 that could go
76:55 in part of that existing building
76:58 another possibility is
76:59 it could be adaptively reused maybe the
77:02 upper floor
77:03 as a bed and breakfast maybe there could
77:06 be a restaurant a small restaurant
77:08 downstairs and bed and breakfast
77:10 upstairs and maybe you could have a
77:12 learning center in the rest of it
77:14 and it's also a good-sized parcel so
77:16 there could be another building built
77:19 in addition to the one that's already
77:21 there so
77:23 just a few ideas what do you think
77:28 all right so let's um think about the
77:30 whales tale
77:31 site bed and breakfast with a restaurant
77:33 just a restaurant on its own
77:35 um the maritime marine education center
77:38 and aquarium and i'm pretty sure that's
77:39 going to get a
77:40 a lot of positive response because we
77:42 had a lot of write-ins for that um this
77:44 idea of a museum and education before we
77:45 even got to this site so
77:47 people have been hungry for hearing a
77:48 little bit more about that and the
77:50 potential synergy of the existing uh
77:53 boating center
77:55 where kids learn to vote and the
77:57 existing
77:58 maritime museum and then an educational
78:02 use here would form a really nice sort
78:04 of a
78:04 civic educational cluster at this
78:07 location
78:09 that could be also enhanced with a
78:11 restaurant and maybe
78:13 other things and there's been also lots
78:14 of specific ideas for
78:16 restaurants and wineries and breweries
78:18 and places to dance and
78:20 venues and lots lots of great ideas in
78:22 the
78:23 comments as well in the questions
78:25 totally
78:27 so we've got a little quicker responses
78:29 to this one because there's not as many
78:31 choices presented and also everybody's
78:33 getting good at this thing
78:34 yes that's true too um still a few
78:36 comments on worry about parking and
78:39 making sure that the parking is
78:40 accommodated but not taking over the
78:43 parking is not taking over the sites as
78:45 well so
78:45 well yeah well right now if you just
78:47 look around parking is
78:48 everywhere so we're going to look at
78:51 that in a minute
78:54 all right so part as important as
78:56 important as parking in
78:58 is people don't come to a destination
79:02 for the parking
79:05 they'll stay away if there isn't enough
79:07 but they need
79:08 it's the fun stuff we need to focus on
79:11 okay andrew um let's go ahead and end
79:14 that poll and
79:15 not surprising again 71 percent um like
79:18 that idea of the marine education
79:20 aquarium
79:21 about 60 for the restaurant and a little
79:23 less on the the bed and breakfast but
79:25 still
79:25 um nearly 40 percent there and 11 of
79:28 people with lots of other ideas and
79:30 some of those i'm sure those that have
79:32 been expressed for the other the other
79:34 sites and so we'll
79:35 look for more of that in the q a and
79:37 your responses
79:38 as well so let's move on to the public
79:42 realm
79:43 okay
79:47 so is the survey going to go away there
79:50 andrew
79:50 okay thank you okay so
79:56 as the most important thing we believe
79:59 to making this a destination where
80:02 people will
80:03 come for a morning or a day
80:06 rather than a donut
80:10 or a t-shirt is to make it a place where
80:13 people want
80:14 people will park their car once and then
80:16 start looking around and say oh honey
80:18 let's go
80:19 what's that over there let's go look at
80:20 that let's rent a bike and spend the day
80:23 so the the the geography of this place
80:27 is the two main gateways are at harbor
80:29 and channel islands and victorian
80:31 channel islands
80:32 those have to have it needs those need
80:35 to look
80:35 like you've really arrived somewhere and
80:38 this green line around here indicates
80:41 the possibility of
80:43 putting a new pedestrian and bicycle
80:46 loop around the outside
80:48 the pedestrian promenades along the
80:50 water and then connecting back
80:52 to the edge the edge route
80:56 there's a bunch of parks and there's a
80:58 new one that would be planned
81:00 all of these could be improved and this
81:02 one would be a new one that would be
81:03 associated with fisherman's wharf
81:06 a water taxi knitting things together
81:08 inside
81:09 the possibility of little overlooks that
81:12 could be built
81:13 all along here we're going to show you a
81:14 picture of those now
81:16 so to really just just
81:19 take every possible advantage of the
81:22 water's edge
81:23 so speaking of not yet taking every
81:26 possible advantage of the water's edge
81:27 you've got some okay sidewalks and
81:29 during the pandemic people are actually
81:31 putting tables out here
81:32 but it's not a real lively thing
81:36 so we're suggesting that
81:39 at a minimum everywhere there should be
81:42 a wide comfortable
81:43 walkway in some cases a new building
81:46 could be built close to or right up
81:49 against the walkway
81:51 with outdoor dining either under
81:54 an arcade like this or the building just
81:56 set back farther and this could just be
81:58 an outdoor patio
81:59 there's also the possibility along the
82:02 water's edge where right now you just
82:04 look at the rocks going down to the
82:05 water
82:06 that in certain places little decks
82:09 could be built out over those
82:11 rocks so that you could actually sit
82:13 right bang on the water's edge
82:15 instead of only over here where you're
82:17 across the sidewalk
82:18 and up the rock bank from it so this
82:21 could provide
82:22 essentially almost like a wharf kind of
82:25 experience
82:26 a lot of different places around the
82:28 harbor
82:29 and damn there we go okay
82:33 and little kiosks or little restaurants
82:36 little bars
82:38 could be built on such structures that's
82:41 really kind of
82:42 minting new real estate i mean right now
82:45 it's just the rocks that go down to the
82:46 water
82:47 and i mean you need them because they
82:49 keep the water out of the palate but
82:51 you could have you could have the
82:53 possibility of sitting right on the
82:55 water
82:56 and you could have these even where
82:58 there aren't otherwise buildings you
83:00 could have them along the edge of
83:02 some an area where there's currently a
83:03 park or even along the edge of what's
83:06 currently a parking lot where you could
83:07 create
83:08 these little activity nodes and revenue
83:11 sources
83:13 uh because if people are walking around
83:15 if they find
83:16 a really interesting thing like every
83:18 minute or two
83:19 on their walk that's a lot less likely
83:22 they're going to get bored to go home
83:25 then also tying everything together
83:28 would be the idea of a water taxi it
83:30 could be this type
83:32 that just stops periodically
83:35 and run it could run a route that could
83:37 go up into the north harbor and stop at
83:39 each of these points of attraction could
83:41 stop at each marina
83:42 could stop at each restaurant could stop
83:44 at each dock
83:46 and the this is one type there's the
83:48 possibility of another type which we
83:50 don't have a picture of in this
83:52 presentation which would be more just
83:54 like a little
83:55 barge that you could just come on to
83:57 with your bike and just
83:58 a little electric like a little electric
84:02 vehicle that you could you and your bike
84:03 and your family and your dog could just
84:05 hop on and ride across and
84:07 get on
84:10 so then if you have this network of
84:13 promenades
84:14 that run along the water's edge the
84:16 thing about the harbor is it's
84:18 three strips of land it's a skinny strip
84:20 of land along harbor boulevard
84:22 it's a skinny strip of land along
84:24 victoria
84:26 it's the peninsula down the middle the
84:28 only thing that connects them
84:30 if you don't have a boat is the channel
84:33 islands
84:33 bridge which looks like this
84:36 so we're asking ourselves wouldn't it be
84:39 nice
84:39 if a walkway that is
84:43 has the amenity of these promenades that
84:45 we're thinking of
84:46 for the water's edge could just come
84:48 right across this bridge well
84:50 as luck would have it it could because
84:53 there's four lanes of traffic here and
84:56 they could be scooted over
84:58 now by the way i'll start by saying this
85:00 is the city of oxnard street
85:02 so these things would need all of these
85:05 things we're showing you about streets
85:06 would need to be done
85:08 in a cooperative fashion with the county
85:10 and the city
85:12 and the community working hand in glove
85:15 but physically there is space and
85:18 structure
85:19 that could support having the same sort
85:22 of
85:22 a bike way and
85:26 walkway running along the bridge that
85:29 would mer that would basically continue
85:32 the waterfront promenades
85:34 right over the water so you could come
85:36 from the harbor boulevard side
85:38 you could even have a stair that drops
85:40 down onto the peninsula
85:42 in the middle for instance where there
85:44 is a dirt area which has been proposed
85:48 to be converted to a park there's the
85:51 past
85:51 so this has already been we didn't draw
85:53 this some others drew this previously
85:55 so you could have a nice little park
85:57 right here at the top of the peninsula
86:00 right with an access with a stair coming
86:02 down right off
86:04 the bridge and actually you could have a
86:05 path coming in right behind the fire
86:07 station
86:08 here and one one of the op
86:11 one of the operations that's currently
86:13 in the harbor is
86:14 a rowing club and they don't they don't
86:16 have much of a home
86:18 so we suggested that there could be a
86:20 rowing dock located here
86:22 you could create boat storage under the
86:25 bridge i mean there's already a roof
86:26 it's called the bridge and so they could
86:30 operate
86:30 out of here and youth and adult
86:34 rowing clubs could operate within the
86:37 harbor
86:38 there's actually enough room to do
86:41 a legitimate 2100 meter rowing course
86:45 that could just run from the north
86:47 harbor under the bridge the south harbor
86:49 you could have places where people could
86:51 stand along the promenade
86:53 and on on the nice new bridge we showed
86:56 and watched the boat races running back
86:58 and forth under here
87:00 that i mean that's a fun activity of
87:03 pretty
87:03 important proportions we think then
87:05 harbor boulevard
87:09 runs of course not only up to ventura
87:11 but then comes in and runs along
87:13 between the beach neighborhood and the
87:16 harbor
87:17 and it's kind of a an ordinary looking
87:20 big old wide street
87:21 and it's got the housing on one side and
87:23 you got the parking lots over here
87:26 and so we asked ourselves you know
87:28 wouldn't it be nice
87:29 if there were a beautiful walkway and
87:32 bikeway
87:33 along this edge and it looked a little
87:35 bit more like you had arrived
87:36 at at a cool destination rather than you
87:40 know just just a big old street
87:42 so yes it could be possible to
87:46 scoot the traffic over a little bit like
87:48 we did on
87:50 on the bridge where you'd have the
87:52 southbound lane in the northbound lane
87:54 in the left turn lane
87:55 you could have a parking lane here so
87:58 that folks could park to visit
88:00 the harbor you'd you'd be the parking in
88:02 front of residences over here
88:04 this is the existing sidewalk but you
88:06 could have a two-way bikeway running
88:08 along this whole edge
88:10 so that folks and not only would it
88:12 provide
88:13 a nicer way for visitors to the harbor
88:16 to sort of get around
88:17 across the bridge and down down along
88:20 harbor boulevard
88:21 it would also make this a much more
88:23 pleasant environment for folks from the
88:25 neighborhood
88:26 to walk or bike over into the harbor
88:30 bringing perhaps more customers from
88:32 just the surrounding neighborhoods never
88:34 mind from far and wide
88:37 it occurred to us even that harbor
88:39 boulevard as it heads up
88:41 along the beach neighborhoods toward
88:42 ventura harbor and downtown ventura
88:45 has and again this would have to be done
88:48 with
88:48 in collaboration with the city of oxnard
88:50 but we do a lot of work on streets
88:53 and it looks to us like you could just
88:55 put a two-way bikeway right up along
88:58 the ocean side of harbor boulevard so
89:01 that folks could ride their bikes right
89:03 on up
89:04 to the hotel here and to the
89:07 hollywood beach and up to ventura harbor
89:11 and onward
89:12 you know to to the fairgrounds and
89:13 downtown ventura
89:16 and then on the victoria side there's
89:19 just a two-lane road in a very wide
89:21 right-of-way you've got the navy base
89:22 over here right now
89:24 the the west side of victoria is just
89:26 the
89:27 back side of the boat yards and we're
89:30 suggesting that it could become
89:32 a new front for some of these new
89:35 uses that we have shown might be
89:38 possible along victoria
89:40 so we made a drawing of just one way
89:42 this could happen
89:43 so instead of having a two-lane road
89:45 going right next to the harbor you could
89:47 scoot the two-lane road over you got
89:49 all kinds of room to get have a
89:53 this would be the road that would just
89:54 carry people to silver strand
89:56 you could have a low speed sort of a
89:58 like a low speed
90:00 access road just for
90:04 to create a new pleasant front
90:07 to come into the harbor you could have a
90:08 little parking some landscaping so this
90:11 edge could look like the
90:12 like the edge of a very important harbor
90:15 and not so much
90:17 like you know the back of some boat
90:18 yards and you could have
90:20 the same two-way bikeway and a walkway
90:24 leading into new uses whether it's the
90:26 new
90:28 development on the sport fishing site or
90:30 whether it's
90:31 the new fisherman's wharf development or
90:33 whether it's the
90:35 airstream uh botel operation or whatever
90:39 but it would be
90:39 a front a beautiful front rather than a
90:43 not so beautiful backside and then
90:48 on oh i'm sorry just a minute so now
90:51 everything's
90:51 okay so then one of the things we've
90:55 noticed
90:55 is that it's hard to find where you're
90:59 going here i mean i know the place very
91:01 well and i was supposed to meet some
91:02 folks down there for a little boat tour
91:04 and i couldn't find
91:05 the building they were talking about so
91:08 if i can't find it visitors are going to
91:10 get lost
91:11 so right now it's you know just
91:14 you know where do i go so what we're
91:17 suggesting
91:18 is that some clear new gateways
91:22 and some clear directional signage
91:24 actually this drawing was done
91:26 by a plan that was prepared for the
91:28 harbor quite a few years
91:30 ago but way finding some branding and
91:32 wayfinding so that you know you've
91:34 arrived
91:35 and you know where you can go to park
91:37 where you can go to find your
91:38 destination
91:39 etc and those kinds of way finding
91:43 the gateway signage and wayfinding could
91:45 happen at each of these
91:47 new little streets that brings you in so
91:50 that instead of
91:51 finding yourself just in in a bunch of
91:54 parking lots you find yourself with
91:55 clear signage that lets you know to turn
91:58 into this little street
91:59 to find all these new interesting things
92:02 so this is the last
92:03 point is so you know the obvious
92:06 question is well who pays for that
92:08 well there's a bunch of possibilities
92:13 and clearly the to pay for the
92:16 promenades
92:17 park improvements street improvements is
92:19 going to require a clear plan and some
92:21 financing strategies so and
92:25 we would point out that some of the
92:26 improvements especially at the north end
92:28 of the harbor especially
92:30 something like a landmark change to the
92:33 channel islands bridge
92:35 and the at least the beginnings of
92:37 walkways along harbor
92:39 and victoria coming down south
92:42 could really change the
92:46 allure of the harbor as a destination as
92:49 a place
92:50 for really good quality developers to
92:53 invest
92:54 some serious money in fine new
92:57 buildings and uses so we think that
92:59 could help jumpstart
93:01 the reinvestment that the harbor needs
93:03 so much
93:05 and certainly some of the improvements
93:07 like the new
93:08 wharf at fisherman's wharf some of the
93:10 walkways around fisherman's ward for the
93:12 or the x3 parcel
93:14 they could just be required as part of
93:17 that project and if there's a clear
93:18 master plan
93:19 of how those how that whole network of
93:23 walkways and bikeways and and water
93:26 taxis is supposed to work then
93:28 the harbor can require each developer to
93:30 do their part
93:31 also if the
93:35 val the the harbor is in a unique
93:38 position that the structure of their
93:39 leases
93:40 provides for them to share in
93:44 the increased revenue if the businesses
93:47 in the harbor start doing better the
93:49 heart the county
93:50 gets a piece of that action so
93:54 as the development and the activities in
93:57 the businesses become more successful
93:59 that provides some additional revenue
94:01 that the harvard could assign
94:02 to helping to pay for the construction
94:05 and the maintenance
94:06 of these kinds of connecting facilities
94:10 certainly if you have a plan you can
94:12 apply for and get
94:14 grants from loc from state and federal
94:18 uh state and federal grants there's a
94:21 lot of grants out there for active
94:23 transportation walking and biking for
94:25 economic development
94:26 for recreational facilities and if it
94:29 becomes
94:30 clear that the value of this place is
94:33 rising going to rise steadily rather
94:35 than decline steadily as it has for so
94:38 long
94:39 then the city and or the county could
94:42 determine that the property taxes
94:46 are going to be going up the sales taxes
94:49 are probably going to be going up
94:51 the transient occupancy taxes from hotel
94:54 and motel and botel businesses would be
94:57 going up
94:58 and on that basis might find it prudent
95:00 to also
95:01 invest some city funds some county funds
95:05 in enhancing the long neglected
95:07 infrastructure
95:09 of the south harbor to put it on a put
95:12 it on an even
95:13 footing with places like seabridge just
95:16 to the north
95:17 the collection up at the freeway
95:20 downtown ventura which has been steadily
95:22 improving ventura harbor
95:24 which has been steadily improving it'd
95:27 make it once again a good bet
95:29 for a reinvestment we think
95:34 susan great so this is a different
95:38 question
95:38 finally than the other ones that we've
95:40 been having so there's
95:42 lots of different ideas that david
95:44 mentioned and they're all
95:45 listed here and probably not even all of
95:46 them he mentioned
95:48 the promenade the waterfront decks with
95:50 kiosks water taxi
95:52 multi-use trail the bridge the park in
95:55 the rowing facility
95:57 along with branding and even the new
95:59 victoria avenue frontage
96:01 um so again this is just what what
96:03 things are you most excited about or
96:04 that got you most excited and i
96:06 as i was going through the q a while you
96:08 were talking there is a lot a lot of
96:09 comments about
96:10 um positive responses to the idea of
96:13 protected bike lanes
96:14 and just bike lanes in general see
96:16 somebody even talking about let's make
96:18 it go all the way to santa barbara and
96:19 extend those around let's take into
96:22 account that people are riding electric
96:23 bikes and there's lots of bikes around
96:25 lots of positive comments about the
96:27 bridge and the rowing
96:29 throwing facility as well so i'm seeing
96:31 a lot of really positive stuff there
96:34 a few comments about maybe being careful
96:35 with trees because we don't want to
96:37 block any views
96:39 so just locations of trees are so you
96:41 know of course would be something we
96:42 would consider as well or to be
96:43 considered
96:44 sure um
96:49 i'll put in a plug for the bike thing
96:51 because we work
96:52 in lots of cities in lots of places and
96:55 biking is always
96:56 a popular subject
97:01 this area is just triply blessed
97:04 with benign very gentle climate
97:09 very rarely too cold very rarely too hot
97:13 and just flat as a pancake so
97:16 i mean there's i can't imagine a better
97:18 environment for biking
97:20 and if the streets can be made safe and
97:22 comfortable and beautiful
97:24 for that activity i think we're gonna
97:26 get just a lot of people coming in from
97:30 all around and people who just decide to
97:33 spend a week here
97:35 and just leave their car parked the
97:37 whole week because it's just too fun to
97:39 bike
97:42 terrific thank you so let's give it
97:45 another
97:46 few seconds here andrew there was a lot
97:50 of choices a lot of things to think
97:51 about
97:53 looking back on the q a here and again
97:55 just seeing seeing more positive
97:56 comments to
97:57 a lot of people really like these public
97:59 improvements there's a few comments
98:00 worried about taking lanes away um on
98:03 across the some of the roadways but
98:05 in general we're seeing a lot of very
98:06 positive the only place the only place
98:09 that we
98:10 can that we showed the possibility of
98:12 taking a lane away
98:14 would be on harbor boulevard running
98:17 north of the harbor up toward ventura
98:19 uh and you know that that's an optional
98:22 thing there's other ways to get up there
98:24 on
98:24 local on little local streets running
98:26 along the beach and
98:27 nothing like that would be done without
98:29 very carefully studying it to make sure
98:31 that it wasn't going to
98:33 tie traffic up
98:37 yeah all right so um andrew let's go
98:39 ahead and oh you've already closed it
98:40 and you're sharing so
98:42 waterfront promenade which has a lot of
98:44 these different um
98:45 improvements 86 percent but you see a
98:47 lot of very positive responses to most
98:49 of these ideas
98:51 um i mentioned the rowing facility that
98:52 seemed like it was getting a lot of
98:53 comments a little
98:55 less support here but um definitely a
98:57 lot of probably the folks that
98:59 that are that know the rowing um
99:00 community are probably responding a lot
99:02 in
99:02 the q a there but 48 that's nearly 50
99:05 percent of people
99:06 on this call um are looking at that as a
99:08 positive branding
99:10 in the 60 multi-use trail the water taxi
99:12 as we heard a lot of comments coming in
99:15 um so just a lot of really positive
99:17 response to the the public improvements
99:19 and
99:20 these kinds of things really do add to
99:21 the one of the number one things people
99:23 said in that survey that they love to do
99:25 in the harbor was walking and biking and
99:27 just spending time and
99:28 these kinds of improvements definitely
99:30 would help enhance that
99:33 and it's these improvements that
99:36 make the difference between this being a
99:39 destination
99:40 place versus a bunch of nice projects
99:43 that are near each other
99:47 yeah i'm just looking at the the
99:48 question and answer i don't know um
99:50 andrew or mark are there any other
99:52 questions that you are seeing pop up
99:54 that you want to
99:55 highlight questions or comments in the q
99:57 a well
99:58 i think there there is um a
100:01 misperception about victoria
100:03 it seemed that some in the audience were
100:06 thinking that
100:07 the boater related services were going
100:10 to go away and that's just not the case
100:11 no
100:11 oh i'm sorry no i'm sorry if i gave that
100:14 impression no no no
100:15 no you didn't but i think that there was
100:18 a
100:19 well i might i might have implied that
100:21 and i apologize
100:22 the channel on his landing i mean a huge
100:24 boat yard is going nowhere it's got
100:26 its lease uh extends to i believe off
100:29 the top of my head 2054.
100:31 so that that'd still be a fence along
100:33 there but it could be nicely landscaped
100:35 and have a nice bikeway along the edge
100:37 of it
100:37 and i think david indicated or at least
100:39 we talked about you know maybe do some
100:41 dry stack there
100:42 uh provide additional space to do
100:45 something a little bit more exciting
100:46 that's a possibility but that
100:48 but that lessee would have to weigh in
100:49 on that he would have to be part of that
100:51 the launch ramp's not going anywhere the
100:53 launch ramp is going to stay there all
100:54 the parking for the launch ramp is going
100:56 to stay there so
100:57 so those boater-related services won't
100:59 won't go anywhere
101:01 um what we do see here is a lack of of
101:04 um commercial like boat boat uh
101:08 maintenance facilities and what we've
101:10 seen is that they go up land
101:12 because the rent's cheaper quite frankly
101:14 and then they when they do their
101:15 services they come down to the boats and
101:16 do their services
101:17 and that is a challenge um you know
101:20 because there is space i mean
101:21 there's space right now available for
101:23 those type of services
101:24 but i mean i think if if i ran that type
101:27 of service i'd probably go up land for
101:29 my warehousing as well
101:30 and then come down here to do the
101:32 service but but those are things we've
101:33 considered
101:34 but boating services are not going
101:36 anywhere the commercial wharf's not
101:37 going anywhere
101:39 um we may move it but it's going to stay
101:42 on on that eastern side of the harbor
101:44 and
101:45 and so this harbor will continue to
101:47 maintain
101:48 its its boating culture there's no doubt
101:50 about it we want it to be
101:53 most of what we're talking about on land
101:55 that should complement the marinas
101:58 and believe me the marinas what they
102:00 really need is some exciting
102:02 development on land to help them fill
102:04 the slips
102:05 um one person indicated that we have a
102:07 lack of slips no we don't
102:09 we have probably 75 to 80
102:12 occupancy which means we have 20 to 25
102:15 vacancy
102:16 uh as compared to up you know other
102:18 marinas particularly south of us
102:20 we have a lot of vacancy and the way to
102:23 create more occupancy
102:24 is to develop the land to make this more
102:27 of an exciting harbor
102:28 because then boat owners want to have
102:30 their boats there because it's exciting
102:32 and they want to go down to their boats
102:34 and use their boats or just hang on
102:35 their boats because it's now an exciting
102:36 harbor
102:37 it's it's all part and parcel of the
102:39 same equation
102:42 great thanks mark well again that
102:45 comments keep coming in as i look over
102:47 um so still a lot of support for the
102:49 small boats and just mark i think
102:50 reinforced that that's definitely a part
102:52 of the the whole package for sure
102:54 there are some comments about making
102:55 sure you're accommodating electric
102:57 fields maybe even neighborhood electric
102:59 vehicles
103:00 um concepts for those as well so very
103:02 important i see lots of things about
103:03 comments about dogs as well so
103:05 really making sure that we keep this
103:07 place a pet friendly location um
103:10 so um noting here that
103:13 just a comment we still have about 200
103:15 questions that are for comments that
103:16 were that are still coming in
103:18 so um just to note again that we will
103:20 have all of these
103:21 um organized and for you to look at at
103:23 the end of this word not the end of the
103:25 workshop we'll have to take some
103:26 a few a little bit of time to organize
103:28 those but they will all be
103:29 um part of this workshop summary you did
103:31 you definitely tested me this that was a
103:33 lot of questions hitting us
103:35 i think we answered according to what
103:36 i'm looking at 386 of them
103:38 but there's still 234 out there and a
103:40 lot of it was was your recommendations
103:43 and your ideas i appreciate it
103:44 and and the curt answer of thanks wasn't
103:47 because we're dismissing it
103:48 that's all the time we had to address it
103:50 but everything will be considered and
103:52 there were a lot of wonderful ideas
103:54 coming through
103:55 and um as susan indicated you know about
103:58 250 that we haven't had a chance to
104:00 answer yet but we'll definitely get to
104:01 them
104:03 all right so david you want to talk a
104:05 little bit or
104:07 something here just a minute we've got
104:09 there we go
104:10 okay there we go so what's next
104:15 so um there were questions about what
104:17 happens next and
104:18 um go ahead go to the next slide david
104:22 so this is we've shown you the top third
104:25 of the
104:25 of this flow chart um which was again
104:28 kind of created by residents and we
104:30 adopted it two years ago
104:32 and that's where the visioning comes in
104:34 but if you look at all of the different
104:36 uh pieces of this of this flowchart
104:39 you'll see there are a lot of steps to
104:40 get to an approved project
104:41 the project has to ultimately be
104:43 approved by the the coastal commission
104:46 and what we've seen is that um that the
104:48 more
104:49 agreement we have going forward it makes
104:52 it easier to get to the coastal
104:53 commission with a project
104:55 that everybody's for because the last
104:56 thing the coastal commission wants to be
104:58 as a referee
104:59 when you have a lot of opposition to
105:01 this is why we're doing this visioning
105:02 this upfront visioning
105:04 and so ultimately what this what this
105:06 visioning process will
105:08 result in is you know maybe some revive
105:11 some refined visions um for each of
105:14 these parcels
105:16 uh we've got a lot of ideas we've we had
105:18 a lot of ideas coming in we've gotten
105:20 your opinions and and input as to uh you
105:23 know about these ideas and
105:25 and we're gonna kind of as a as a
105:27 steering committee
105:28 um you know bring them together you know
105:31 talk about them
105:32 and and and end up with with a vision
105:36 you know harbor wide vision or visions
105:38 for these different developable parcels
105:40 where that we can then turn them into um
105:43 into a process where we look for
105:45 developers
105:46 and that would be the request for
105:47 proposals process and i've
105:49 assured everybody that i've talked to
105:51 and i'll assure you know you
105:53 that it will be a transparent process um
105:56 we when we when we put together requests
105:58 for proposals
106:00 we we will need to say indicate kind of
106:03 what we're looking for for each parcel
106:05 but in addition what we're not looking
106:06 for what we won't accept you know like
106:08 10 story high buildings
106:10 which you see in other harbors like
106:11 marina del rey and newport which we
106:13 don't want here we
106:14 we all agree we don't want that here um
106:17 so so
106:17 those rfps will will have those kind of
106:21 particulars in there but we will keep
106:23 the rfps
106:24 relatively broad because we don't want
106:26 to stifle
106:28 developers and we want developers to
106:30 come at us with
106:31 you know with creative ideas so so
106:34 the next step would be request for
106:37 proposals for these developable areas
106:40 some are going to be easier than others
106:42 and and some will be you know probably
106:44 more refined than others but that's
106:46 where we go next
106:47 and and hopefully you know we can get to
106:50 that rfp
106:51 process we can get developers that want
106:53 to do it because that's the key
106:54 you know we need to find developers if
106:56 we don't have developers
106:58 that are attracted to what we want to do
107:01 then we've kind of wasted our time and
107:03 as i indicated
107:04 this is an enterprise operation so if we
107:07 can't attract those private developers
107:09 to
107:09 to develop the exciting developments
107:11 which are attractive to the public
107:14 supported by the county supported by the
107:16 city of oxnard
107:17 supporting but supported by existing
107:19 harbor businesses and residents
107:21 and that meet the financial needs of the
107:23 county and the city of oxnard that we've
107:25 not accomplished our goal so that's
107:27 where we're headed
107:28 and now that would be the next steps and
107:31 again
107:32 i think we've got one more survey but
107:33 before we get there i'd like to thank
107:34 you again for your participation
107:36 and as susan indicated you can cut where
107:39 you can track the results of the
107:41 the workshop the answers to these
107:42 questions on the website which is
107:44 challenges harbor.org
107:46 and we do have a final survey and i will
107:49 turn that over to susan for that survey
107:54 great so as mark as mark noted and we've
107:56 been talking about this
107:57 is just the preliminary concepts of this
108:00 larger vision plan
108:02 which is one step towards making all of
108:04 this um all of these things happen
108:06 and so we just want to get a sense um
108:07 for just basically what you've heard
108:09 tonight
108:09 how you feel about the direction that
108:12 the channel islands harbor visioning is
108:14 currently taking and so you've got
108:15 um five choices there being very
108:17 comfortable comfortable
108:19 rather neutral uncomfortable and very
108:22 uncomfortable so
108:23 just kind of getting a kind of taking a
108:25 temperature if you will from the group
108:28 um as you're taking this one i'm looking
108:30 back on a few other questions there's
108:32 still some very some very specific
108:34 parcel specific questions that we'll get
108:36 to
108:37 um some may take a little bit more
108:39 timing to answer those but those will be
108:41 there
108:41 um some folks wanting to say how can
108:43 they stay engaged and volunteer
108:45 and getting involved from that
108:46 standpoint so i'm going to pop the
108:48 website up in just a second and make
108:50 sure that you're on the list
108:51 so that anything that's going on with
108:54 this project um
108:55 from here going forward you'll get
108:57 direct information monitor and keep
108:59 keep checking on that website too
109:00 because all of the updates will be there
109:03 so definitely do that um we definitely
109:05 want to keep
109:06 keep reaching out and keep people
109:07 informed and engaged
109:09 we've got about 85 percent of folks who
109:11 have responded so i'm gonna give about
109:13 five more seconds and we'll
109:15 pop up this answer
109:20 there is a couple a few questions on
109:21 timing mark and i know that you're not
109:23 a magician you don't have a magic ball
109:25 but crystal ball i mean but
109:27 maybe you could give a sense of maybe
109:29 just even for the plan itself
109:31 or you've already talked about the rfps
109:33 but analyzing the plan
109:35 we're probably looking at and i don't
109:36 want to put a lot of pressure on you
109:37 david but i don't mind putting some
109:38 pressure on you
109:39 um you know try try to get it done
109:41 pretty quickly you know maybe within a
109:43 month and then
109:44 because what we really need is direction
109:45 to go to go out with the r
109:48 with the request for proposals and it's
109:50 it's not going to be
109:51 a plan in the sense that we're going to
109:53 say well this goes here and this goes
109:55 here and this goes here and this goes
109:56 here
109:57 it's going to be this framework of
109:59 public realm
110:01 and connectivity and then a range of
110:04 options
110:06 for the specific parcels that'll play
110:09 out
110:09 over time depending on the response and
110:12 the financing
110:13 that that that is offered and and
110:16 further
110:17 further response from the community in
110:20 in response to specific
110:21 proposals yep all right so
110:25 um andrew if you want to go ahead and
110:27 end that poll
110:29 um so you can see about 45 very
110:32 comfortable you add that to the 33 that
110:35 are comfortable
110:36 and that gives us about what 78 so
110:40 i think that am i adding right there
110:41 yeah 78 um
110:43 seem to be pretty much in favor of some
110:45 neutral and some you know some still on
110:46 the fence and that's okay we've got
110:48 you know as we move as we move deeper
110:50 into the details
110:51 that may bring some of you who have some
110:53 questions and some hesitations along and
110:55 we hopefully
110:56 we can do that um but it's it's
110:58 definitely positive to see that this
110:59 many people are feeling comfortable
111:01 um another couple of questions that were
111:03 in the
111:05 i see here at the end and we'll pop up
111:06 the next slide here and it's answered a
111:08 couple questions i see
111:10 is what if there are people who couldn't
111:11 come tonight um can they still listen to
111:14 this presentation and participate
111:16 and there will be a slide in just a
111:18 moment once we get through this
111:19 craziness that's what happened there
111:21 there we go i think that's oh yeah yeah
111:24 so i've mentioned the website several
111:26 times i just wanted to make sure that
111:28 you see that this is here
111:29 um there will be a summary report
111:31 somebody asked when the summary and when
111:32 the recording will be available
111:34 um the the recording will probably be
111:36 posted i think by tomorrow if not um
111:38 over the weekend
111:40 and it takes a little bit of time for it
111:41 to download and then we're also going to
111:43 associate a survey
111:44 an um online survey that has the same
111:47 questions that you answered
111:48 tonight that'll be associated with that
111:50 as well so we'd be asking people to
111:52 watch the presentation and then take the
111:54 survey or kind of do them
111:55 together um and then the summary report
111:58 will probably take a little bit more
111:59 time to make sure that we have all the
112:00 questions
112:01 answered and organized as well but watch
112:03 for that on the website too
112:06 that url there is we discovered as we
112:08 were making this slide is unusually hard
112:11 to read when you make it all lower case
112:13 but just it's just www dot channel
112:16 islands harbor dot org
112:19 slash visioning and you also if you just
112:22 go to the channel islands harbor
112:24 website there you it's very easy to get
112:26 to the visioning page there's kind of a
112:28 pop-up that
112:28 that comes up so can it'll drive you
112:30 there as well
112:32 so we thank you all very very much for
112:34 your time tonight
112:35 and um all your great comments all your
112:37 great thoughts and ideas and and look
112:39 forward to the next time we all get
112:42 together
112:49 thank you very much thank you